Yet Another Screenshot from An old trainsimmer

[tryagin]

Been awhile.....
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c68c1e818f26ea0.jpg
Kinda looks like one of those old French Impressionist's jobbies.

Aw Heck, here's another...
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c68c3821cf734f8.jpg

I'll git back to my rockin' chair now...

Tim

[BlakeTyner]

Beautiful pics bud.

Blake Harris
Vice Dean, Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies

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[plainsman]

Just to keep balance (more MILW)....
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c6995276e6d7c29.jpg
Thanks,
Bob

[SD80MAC]

Nice pics!Looks like one of UP's typical excursion trains.What "Route" is that by the way?

[tryagin]

Thanks, MAC!

Yah, only UP could throw That consist together! ;-) The route is the "old ubiquitous" -the Port Ogden and Northern v5 ( beta-pre-signal) that I've hacked to pieces and rebuilt - It's still fun to run on!
Seen below is same train headin south (west in timetables) from 77, which will pass on the lower tracks on it's way west.
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c69f4bb6158e53d.jpg
I seriously doubt that those turbines ever needed an assist from a steamer, but what the hey! It's soul-satisfying to see the mighty GE being pulled by the old dependable Iron Horse, aint it?

Tim

[Starlight]

actually...it has happened in the past. Just check the most recent MR which shows a veranda turb being shunted along by a big boy or challenger. Seems that EVERY so often those turbs broke down or threw a blade and needed helped along.


There's something else in that pic that bugs me though...the turbine that's being pushed doesn't have a tender. (It's a veranda turbine) Am I to believe the verandas didn't always need the tag along tender?

[ssw]

i noticed that too. That veranda would have gone 10 feet tops on that puny tank!!:-)

[tryagin]

Well, get aload of this fellers:
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c749c8442a3d7a0.jpg

I guess when new, they had no tanks. But after awhile, they got 'em off old 9000 class 4-12-2's.

Tim

[darkrose]

Is that the Union Pacific 4-8-2 Mountain??

btw looks very nice

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DarkRose

[tryagin]

Aye, Captain!
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c76604d3e022dd9.jpg

Tim

[darkrose]

Very nice ~smile~ Perhaps you can help me, I 'know' that this had to be a Pacific and I've tried researching her for which she is but can't find her, the 4-8-2 Mountain is as close as I've been able to find on her, though it isn't it. Right now, it doesn't matter if I find a sim engine, I just really want to know what she is...

http://darksharra.homestead.com/files/470a.jpg


http://darksharra.homestead.com/files/dre.jpg

DarkRose

[jerseycentral]

that Veranda has got no tank!?!?!?! i thought they used propane or crushed coal? there is no way that thing has an onboard fuel tank! someone please explain!

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[darkrose]

Found my answer thanks to an email from darkfyre and the archive there has some really good photos of not just steam but diesel as well...

4-6-2 "470"

http://gelwood.railfan.net/other/mec/mec-s470a.jpg


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DarkRose

[tryagin]

Hey, JC, how are ya?

These Verandas were delivered without tenders and used an onboard tank, which turned out to be insufficient. They burned "Bunker C" fuel, otherwise known as residual fuel. At that time a low cost fuel. There was a Propane experimental in 1953, UP No. 57, which required a special pressurized tender. The tests were run between Los Angeles and Las Veagas, and were considered a success, but UP decided not to convert the rest of the fleet, and the 57 was returned to Bunker C power in January '54.
The coal-burning turbine experiment was an interesting collection of equipment. The cab unit was an old ALCO PA unit, the tubine unit was housed in one of the old Great Northern HUGE W-class electric locomotive carbodies ( it had a B-D+D-B wheel arrangement originally, but the UP made it a 2-D+D-2)Weight was 872,300 LBS. The tender was an old Challenger Type. It ran from 1961 to 1964. Hopefully, someone out there will have a pic. I don't have a scanner as yet, or, I'd post one.

Hope this clears up some of the confusion

Tim

[dangodfrey]

Hey, Tim, great shots! How did you get that vantage point from so far away like that?

Dan

[tryagin]

LAST EDITED ON Feb-26-02 AT 08:43PM (EST)[p]Hi Dan,
Well, there is a tweak in the Camcfg. file, found in your Global folder, you can do to give you pretty much full control of the camera while in the "4" key or "spotter-cam" mode. Here is a copy of the spottercam portion of the camcfg file in my Global Folder:

camera ( CamTypeSpotter
CamType ( CamTypeSpotter CamControlFull )

Fov ( 50 )
ZClip ( 0.5 )
WagonNum ( 0 )
Description (Spotter_Cam)
ObjectOffset (0.0 3.0 0.0)
)

With "CamControlFull" you get to have free-rein and can even look "underground" ( if you want). Also, see "Fov" which is Field of Vision- changing this is like changing lenses on a camera- The smaller the number the more of a "telephoto lense" effect you get. I've got it on 50- the default I believe, was 60.
Judd Spittler has more on this on his website:

http://www.juddspittler.com/spittler_engineering/

He goes into using different focal length settings and has gotten stunning results from it.

Hope this helps

Tim


PS~ Oh, yah, In doing this remember to back up your originals ;-)
And another thing- I don't get this happeneing all the time, but sometimes the Spottercam stays put and will let you watch the entire train pass, caboose and all. I once watched my 35-car freight come and go untill the caboose disappeared behind a curve off on the horizon. I tried to repeat it myself, but could never MAKE it happen. This has happened twice since I've tweaked the file, several months back.

tm

[jerseycentral]

im doing ok, coming back after a hiatus...been spending sometime with some Geeps from my favorite road in my "home".

Departing CNJ Jersey City Terminal:
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c805a791c6e6073.jpg

Round the bend in Greenville:
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c805abc1d61a5de.jpg

Underneath the tracks near Bayonne:
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c805b0b1e6ead31.jpg

Off into the sunset on the CNJ main:
http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c805b361f0d1137.jpg

so who says urban railroading dont look good? nevertheless on a PII@350 with an 8MB graphics card! oh well, 16FPS is good enough....

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[Paul1953]

I downloaded camhack(2?) some time ago and really enjoy the views it gives. Optimal would be having a key assignment that gives a complete run past in one position. Also a choice of views when derailing could be usefull as well as entertaining.Betcha somebody is already working on it!