Steam Loco dead in tow request.

[mikedc3]

LAST EDITED ON Jun-07-02 AT 02:00AM (EDT)[p]Hi guy's
About 10-12 years ago I was out 4 wheeling in my old Bronco with some friends. We were in W. Milford NJ near the NYSnW tracks. Back in the 70's there was a tourist line that ran on the SnW tracks. The tourist line was called the Morris County Central. Anyway the MMC closed down in the 80's and all their equipment was stored in an enginehouse. There were pipes welded to the rails and up to the doors of the engine house to keep people out. Well the day we were out 4 wheeling we came apon the engine house and there was a crowd of people there. What was happening was the NYSnW had sent a switcher up to the engine house to remove 1 of the old MMC steamers so it could be restored (It's still not done). Needless to say 4 wheeling was forgotten and the rest of the day was spent watching the NYSnW crews removing drive rods and lubing the engine. After a few hours they coupled up to the steamer and towed it away. I would like to re-enact this in MSTS. I am thinking of using the ORRR. I would like to place a steamer and some other old equipment in the steel mill near Zanesville. Send a loco out there with some idler cars to pickup the steamer and cars and tow them to the other end of the line. But I need some help. Would someone be willing to modify one of their steamers, and re upload it for this activity? I would need the visible steam and the "chugging" sound removed. It doesn't matter if the steamer helps to power the train as long as you couldn't tell from looking or hearing. I don't have a clue if this could even be done. I would like to use either a 4-8-4 or a 4-6-4 but any steamer will do just fine. In return I will definitely share this act. with the rest of the community.


Thanks, Mike

[johnf]

All you need to do is replace the steam engines .eng file with a .wag file and the loco is now a wagon.

John Fowlis
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[gxm149]

I don't know a whole lot about creating activities but I had an idea that might be possible for this activity to remove the steam and the chugging from the steam locomotive. Can you set the initial fuel (coal) and water level for the engines at the start of an activity? I believe the activity editor will let you do that. If so you could just have the steam engine sitting there empty with no fuel or water in it. If MSTS is as real as it claims to be, the steam engine should just sit there like any other freight car as you pull it. After all, a steam engine without any fuel to burn or water to boil shouldn't create any steam right. Anyway, like I said this is just an idea for how you might be able to do this. Maybe you could try it and see if it works. Good luck on creating this activity.

[Xacto]

Very intersting idea for an activity, I hope you can get it to work. I recall the Morris County Central very fondly, it was my first experience with a real working steam locomotive. They used to be based out of Whippany, NJ before they moved the operation to Newfoundland, NJ. Here's a pic of my Dad and I taken sometime around 1965 I think. I'm so glad that my Dad passed on his interest in trains and all things mechanical to me, I cherish it to this day :)


Cliff

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[mikedc3]

John,
So all I have to do is change the extention of the filr from .eng to .wag?? Or do I need to replace it with some other .wag file??

Thanks for the help,
Mike

[controll]

Replace it with a WAG file from some other non-powered unit and thats it....ps. dont forget to rename it to the name of the S file for it to work and also edit the WAG files references to look for the SD and S files correctly.

Rick

[Hack]

Cliff - I'm glad to see you're still hangin' about! :)

Cheers!
Marc - 3DTrains
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[Xacto]

Thank you Marc, I haven't been working on anything for TS lately, but I still like to keep up with all the great things people have been doing here. I hope to get back to my incomplete projects once I get some other non TS projects finished.

Cliff

[Adam3291]

That would be a great idea. Maybe make Conn's Mikados dead in pull. That would make a great activity for a trip to the steel mills.

Hey Cliff, Hows that repaint of the Erie Consolidation to the Spencer 604 coming along. Since I live so close to that engine at the NCTM I would really like to have it on my computer. Hey do you have any pics too? I'm not rushing you, I just want to find out how the project is coming along.

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Adam Parsons
stparsons@lexcominc.net

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[Xacto]

I just uploaded the NCTM #604 to the file section, thanks for reminding me Adam :) I completed it months ago and sent it off to the person who requested it, but I never got around to formatting everything for the upload to the file area here.

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Info on the actual locomotive in the North Carolina Transportation Museum can be found here:

http://www.ci.salisbury.nc.us/nctrans/index.htm

Cliff

[Adam3291]

Your welcome Cliff. The 604 WILL find a home in my roundhouse. Cliff, what about making the Green Southern 722 or the Black Southern 630? It's just a idea.

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Adam Parsons
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[Xacto]

You sent me some info on the Southern units, but I recall that the green unit had chromed cylinder covers and several other areas that wouldn't work with the way I have the loco mapped. The cylinder covers are shared with the airtank ends, the brake cylinder ends and a few other spots. The black one may be possible, but at this point I will leave the repainting to the repainters :)

Cliff

[Adam3291]

Thanks for the info Cliff. Hey, are you planning starting any new steam prjects? Maybe the NKP 765. If you are I got some highly detailed drawing of a NKP Berkshire and Tender.

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Adam Parsons
stparsons@lexcominc.net

[rdamurphy]

Get a locomotive tender consist. Get up to speed. Set the handbrake on the tender, and drop it. Continue on without the tender. Watch the boiler fill with water, the firebox with coal and the steam continue steaming.

Rob

[riograndedude]

I'd Like to recreate the some of the first C&TSRR movements in 1970 with the 483 pulling and the 484 in the consist dead with other cars.

Hey Adam, where did you get that logo, I want one like that, perhaps D&RGW 483, 482, or 486?
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[TVRRMAN]

I was wondering the same thing. I was reading a book about the Pennsylvania Railroad Company, and when I got to a certain page, I found a picture of a pair of F7s pulling dead M1a 4-8-2 Mountains. There was a 50' mill gondola in between every engine, and I was going to try to do a recreation of that, but it would be with dead L1s Mikado's instead. I will be using the L1s Pennsy Repaint of Conn's Mikado, and I was wondering, if I send out the engine file to you, would you be able to set it up for me, so that I could try to learn from it?

TVRRMAN

18 Year Old Avid Pennsy Fan

PS: Yes, I will try to make the activity available to the trainsim community.