Railcar cab

[samspade]

This is more of a tease than an update report but here is the planning to date on the railcar cabview:

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2d2c7c0b55a755.jpg

I am not sure how much time I can devote to this at the moment so it might be a while before it gets close to being available. It is just that it has taken my fancy somewhat (my old man used to drive railcars -and diesel electric and steam) and I keep coming back to it...

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[TrainTrak5000]

Looks good...for a planning stage. Let me know if you need more pictures, I've got tons more of the controls and stuff.

Mike Karlik

[ChckHbrt]

Hey Sam

I love it.....I don't like to beg but...ooh ooh Can I test it please oh please oh please huh huh please please please oh please.....

Chuck

[chucksc]

Maybe when he finishes it... I can build a 1hp cab-car (er ENGINE) file to go with it......
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[RailHig]

Now *that's* neat! :7

[ace6879]

Nice Sam!!!

Now if we could just get ya to do the north american Bi-Levels!!! (as in CNW!!! LOL)

Keep 'em coming!!!


Kelley

[samspade]

Can't work without a proper picture (or set of pictures)... hint, hint...

PS 2 hours of work gets a working digital speedo:

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2fcdd16d168077.jpg

This is slooooow... too many trains....

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[TrainTrak5000]

Hey Sam, check back here every couple of hours (hint, hint)...

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2fdfdd40305a49.jpg

Closeup of Brake and Speedometer

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2fe03941a7924a.jpg

LHS Buttons Panel

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2fe07c42b2802e.jpg

Closeup of Buttons

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2fe0b44389a2e2.jpg

Main Controls

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c2fe0ee444ddbb8.jpg

Closeup of Main Controls

Mike Karlik

[samspade]

Thanks for those shots. I love the detail and can always use stuff.

The speedo now has track speed and digital speed readout (I might have them in the wrong places but it works for me where I have put them.)

You wouldn't have any front on shots of the throttle unit would you? I am going to have to model it square on for the cabview to work.

I have adjusted the brake gauges to the MSTS standard settings - hope this works with the end product! Currently building the cab signals panel. Have only completed the surround of that...

You'll probably already note that some of the buttons won't be able to be placed in their correct spots but that's the compromises fitting real life into a computer screen!

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[TrainTrak5000]

Front shots of the throttle...well this is the closest shot I have.

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c3066542ded7077.jpg

Oh, and this shot also gives you a real good idea of the reverser. The on/off swich and the reverser are the same thing, as you can see. (Off, Foward, Neutral, Reverse).

Here are some more shots of the control area.

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c3066f830ab459d.jpg

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c30673a31cdd358.jpg

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c3068c23726694c.jpg

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c3067e634699f5b.jpg

Mike Karlik

[TrainTrak5000]

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Mike Karlik

[samspade]

Brilliant! They are excellent detail shots. That horn bar - press down or move left/right (right/left) to operate????

These pictures deserve an update:

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c31264167962836.jpg

I normally wouldn't post so many in-progress shots because things change and move around too much over time but the quality of the pictures desreves some reward! Perhaps you should start using the NALW logo labelled as Chief Photographic Researcher - LOL

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[TrainTrak5000]

Chief Photographic Researcher...yeah, right! Except, I didn't research these, I took them. I was on a Virginia Railway Express sponsered event/fair in October and they were giving (or charging, I should say) rides on a train using regular commuter equipment. Well, I had never seen what a cab car looked like, so I sat in the very back, and thinking of how people were asking for a cab car cab. So I knew that you would wind up making it, and so I decided to snap a few reference pictures.

As for the horn, you press the lever down to make it sound.

Mike Karlik

[chucksc]

Hey Mike Where do you live? I live over next to Mason and get on at Burke Centre when I have to go downtown to the customer site....

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[samspade]

Actually, I knew that from your earlier comments. (Makes for easy research when you already have it!!!)

Latest update (probably for a while on this one) - have to do the throttle and brake and all the movable controls. I'll probably move the bell up a little too for convenience (mine that is) and when I know what space is left over I'll add some dummy labels/lights/buttons to fill up the left hand side.

On the information side, is this cab (the photos) from the stand-alone railcar type of thing (eg metro rail style powered cars)or just the non-powered cab control in a passenger car linked back to a diesel??

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/User_files/3c3273a751e48bff.jpg

Hope you like this...

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[chucksc]

Jeez Sam I can answer that one as I've ridden the same train! LOL! These are non-powered Cab Cars for push pull service... They go on the other end of the train from the F40 or GP40p...
Pix of trains are at
www.vre.org

(Sorry I couldn't resist sticking my oar in)

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[lightbg]

SamSpade,

Would that cab also work on Auran's RDC? I've never been in one of those, but seeing the actual pictures here HAVE to be better than that pink nightmare they shipped with.

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[chucksc]

In leiu of anything better it should! Just use the RDC eng file instead of the "cab car" one.... The cab car has all the controlls except dynamic brakes that the Engine does.... Hell you could even use it on NJT or Septa with AEM7/ALPS44 pushers....

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[samspade]

I suspected as much although the photos look very much like the cabs of 'our' powered railcars. I can see no reason why they cannot be used as such.

If dynamic brakes were required, what type of control would need to be added???? This unit has no independant brake either but I expected that it wouldn't anyway. No load meter either (although I was considering hiding a digital ammeter somewhere in the panel as a fantasy feature).

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[ace6879]

HEEHEEHEE I keep expecting to see fishee's in the window next!!

;-) :-) :7


Kelley

[TrainTrak5000]

Chuck,

I live near Clifton, Virginia. It is the town right down the line from Burke Station, the day I rode the train, we stopped there before we went back.

Sam,

Nope no dynamic brake and no independent brake. Load meter...I didn't see one. But even if the car had one, the engineer sure didn't care about it! When we were about to leave the station, he whacked that sucker all the way up to notch 8!

Mike Karlik

[chucksc]

OK Mark I know where you're at...

Actually what I've seen them do is "bump it" to RUN1 momentarily and just as soon as the train moves slap it right up to RUN8! But I have always noticed the "bump" into RUN1 first and wondered about that?????

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[michigandon]

Probably just in Run 1 long enough to take the slack out, then notch her all the way out and get the Hell outta there!

Don

[samspade]

>HEEHEEHEE I keep expecting to see fishee's in the window next!!
>
So, Kelley, when did you take up mind-reading as a hobby (or are you using Tarot Cards)? Whatever you are good at it - aquarium was to be my next one. You've made me grab another CD of images just to keep you guessing!

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[ace6879]

LAST EDITED ON Jan-05-02 AT 03:09AM (EST)[p]LOL Sam,

I like the Tomcat!!!! He musta been flyin' LOW!!!!

"Dispatcher this is VRE 220...I need a replacement set of pants!!! We just got buzzed by a Tomcat!!!!"
"VRE 220...park the train and go to the nearest hospital for a P P test!!! You GOTTA be stoned!!!"
"Dispatcher...It's true!! I even got a picture to PROVE it!!!"

HEEHEEHEE }> }> }> }> :7 ;-)

BTW....a quick fix from Chuck in the "I put a new cab in the E-8" post...and now ALL of my cabview woes are gone!! It was in the camcfg.dat file!!!! I have to go back and change ALL of the .cvf files we messed with!!! LOL
As it sits right now the GP9 is at a 45 degree angle to the track!!

Ill have to do the GG1 too. BUT...at least the mystery is solved!!! The E-and F- units get the right view, as does the PA's and all the rest!!

BTW......a space station in the window next???

Thanks!!

Kelley
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[samspade]

Actually I thought the train was travelling rather high...

When I saw your post about having trouble with Mark's switcher I started to wonder about the problem being something else screwy with your installation... was toying with the idea of suggesting you re-install MSTS. Glad you didn't have to.

Damn, though, you're getting good. It was going to be Saturn, with all the pretty rings and things!!!!

There should be a new set of GG1 files - between ChuckSc and myself we managed to lose the correct files - the views are all over the shop. Chuck is checking (carefully) the current set and should upload them soon.

I'll be putting the railcab into the sim next to check it. Still gotta do the right and left views plus the animated controls - that's the bit I don't enjoy...

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[chucksc]

Real Developers don't use "configuration management"
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[ChckHbrt]

Hey Chuckster

Kelley isn't blameing you.

It was me, the other Chuckster. }> }> }> }>

His Fov in cabcam in the camcfg.dat was off.

Chuck

[ace6879]

Hi Chuck!!

WAY OFF!!! 155!!! God it is soooooo nice now!!! Just went through the files to make all work!!! PA's have PA's cab, and F-units have F cabs!!!

Today is a good day!!

Kelley
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[ChckHbrt]

Hey Kelley

Geez 155, that would put you down on the floor almost. I can see where you would need a booster seat and 12 thick telephone books to jack yourself up.

Glad I could help.:D

Chuck