Rocky Mountains express route

[Dralex]

Hi Nels,

Just tried to download the RME route that you are hosting. Alas, I get errors on that page and nothing happens. Cookies are turned on, script blocking is off, however I have to use Norton Internet Security. Do you know what adjustment I should look for? This route is the only one where I have such problems, and I already DL'ed a lot.

Thanks,
Dralex

[smile2evan]

I downloaded the route without any trouble 2 hours ago...!!!

Smile2evan :)

[TimHarvey]

Hi,
Is Norton Internet Security blocking referrer information?
If so disable this option & it should then work fine.
If this doesn't work - what are the errors you're getting?

Thanks
Tim

[Stooopid_person]

No problems with me downloading it!

[mjspeed]

try temporarily disabling Norton Internet Security (an rclick on the icon will show the option).
I was having problems downloading stuff yesterday because of Norton - switched it off, and downloaded with no trouble. Quite easy to have it on the whole time, but switched off for downloading.

[Dralex]

Hi friends,

Thank you for your advices. I did in fact disable NIS, but only until the download had started, then I turned it on again. Until very recently, there were port scanners trying to get into my computer, and NIS said some of them wanted to put Back Door Sub Seven into my computer - therefore my reluctance to switch off NIS. Really have to try that thing with the referrer information.
As for the first ride on this route - once I know the route better, I will certainly not accumulate such delays. BTW, what am I expected to do when passing a yellow signal? Put on the brakes to a certain extent, not exceed a certain speed limit until the next signal comes up (if so, what is it?)?

Thanks again for your help,
Dralex

[nigelb]

I usually brake - if it's a double yellow(don't remember if they are in Rocky Mtns) I will usually slow to half the posted speed limit and if a single yellow slow from half speed gradually to a stop at the next red. In actual practice I think there are specific speed limits to observe in the US. Nothing really substitutes for knowing the route and getting a feel of when to brake considering how far the next signal is from the yellow signal. At the end of the route, I remember there are several very long blocks, so you would adjust accordingly and not slow too soon. Hope that helps!

BTW,
>what am I expected to do when passing a yellow signal? Put
>on the brakes to a certain extent, not exceed a certain
>speed limit until the next signal comes up (if so, what is
>it?)?
>
>Thanks again for your help,
>Dralex

[Tim Frost]

*Clears throat*

Standard mainline US railway signalling is as follows:

Green: Line clear, proceed at posted speed limit
Flashing Yellow: (in four-aspect BVE signalling this is yellow over green or yellow over yellow, in three-aspect BVE signalling this doesn't exist. This is in fact the equivalent of the UK's yellow over yellow also.) This warns that the next signal is single yellow and the signal after that is red. In the US, you are to slow to 45mph in anticipation of a solid yellow signal next.
Solid Yellow: Next signal is red, speed limit 45mph. Prepare to stop before next signal. Don't underestimate your stopping distance!
Red: Stop, of course! ;)

Some railroads or sections of railroads have different signalling. For instance, the Amtrak Pacific Surfliner Route between Los Angeles Union Station and San Diego is all upgraded to high-speed rail (79mph or over), and yellow signals have no speed limit, except the posted linespeed, but the train must be prepared to stop by the next signal. However, yellow signals usually mean the train is taking a diverging route to allow an opposing train to pass.

NOTE: It is quite easy to overshoot the final signal before the 6-mi no signal section on RME, so watch out! After that wait (which might be a few minutes, be patient), you'll have mostly clear signals all the way to your terminal.

BTW, the RME route is not quite signalled to US speed standards, unless you have passed a red aspect (shame on you ;)), just ignore any signal error you get.

Tim Frost
NVTA Subway routes for BVE:
http://nvta.co.uk
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[Dralex]

Hello,

Thanks to all of you, especially Nigel and Tim, for supplying me with information about signalling. I shall follow these advices. In fact, after passing a yellow signal I did go more than 30 mph, which got me the "violated the signal" messages (as you see, I am on 2.5.3). Braking down to 30 of course brought me a huge delay. Now I know where that comes from.
BTW, I have heard that with the new BVE version you can now use 2**16 freeobjects (before it was 2**8). Hopefully there will be routes forthcoming which utilize that feature, although this will probably slow down the frame rates :)

[Stooopid_person]

>BTW, I have heard that with the new BVE version you can now
>use 2**16 freeobjects (before it was 2**8).

??? The old one used 256 objects and the new one 65535.

[jgulbis]

I think Dralex meant 2 to the power of 8 which is 256 and 2**16 which is 65536

[Downunder Tom]

Thankyou all for your comments, it helped me get it as well. I had to disable AtGuard a add stopping program and disable Download Accerator and save as instead and got it ok.

What I think would be nice is that Northern Pacific on Crotrains to run on it, anyone know of somewhere else it is?. Gave the one from Desert Freight a run and worked great, just love that steam. The only comment listening to movies The Bell to me does not sound lould enough, in the movies it seems to be loulder than anything around it and in BVE it seems to be in the background on my machine.


Don't forget to stop at the Border

Tom

[Dralex]

Hi,

Thank you again. Using the ** operator to indicate a power of 2 is a relict from my bad Fortran programming habits. As every programmer knows, there is no such operator in C++. Besides, I forgot to subtract 1 in both cases. And, such routes would only work in BVE 2.5.3. Hopefully, the author of such a route will put this into his Readme file.

Greetings,
Dralex

[jgulbis]

> ...I forgot to subtract 1 in both cases. And, such routes would
> only work in BVE 2.5.3. Hopefully, the author of such a route will
> put this into his Readme file.

There's no need to subtract the one, you can index the freeobjects from 0-255, making 256 of them, I imagine it's the same for BVE 2.5.x: 0-65535.

> The only comment listening to movies The Bell to me does not sound
> lould enough, in the movies it seems to be loulder than anything
> around it and in BVE it seems to be in the background on my machine.

Don't forget, the sounds in BVE should be as they are when listening from inside the cab.

[Routemaster J]

>>BTW, I have heard that with the new BVE version you can now
>>use 2**16 freeobjects (before it was 2**8).
>
>??? The old one used 256 objects and the new one 65535.

I am improving my DLR route to utilise this feature!
But yes do bear in mind will only work with the latest versions of BVE!

Maybe I should do a detail level thing like Anthony B?

[Stooopid_person]

>Maybe I should do a detail level thing like Anthony B?

But even the X-City only uses 256 objects(plus dike, wall,etc)!

[Dralex]

Thank you all,

Dralex

[Routemaster J]

Oh I have used up all the dikes wall etc.

I made the dikes into dual carriageways and all sorts!

[Piccadilly_Line]

Joshim, you can now have 256 walls/dikes/railtypes!

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Tom Beevers
http://brj.rr.nu