GP40X

[CRQ5508]

Besides the one on Stream-lines, has anyone done a GP40X? Also I keep forgetting was the prototype rated at 3500hp, or 3600hp? thanks

[jay611]

I think KLW did a GP40X at one time...

Jason Underwood
Newport News, Virginia
CSX Peninsula Sub MP.16
jay611@cox.net

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[BNSF650]

Yea KLW had two Santa fe ones..but i dont think you can get them no more..

BNSF Oklahoma

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[Guilford343]

I was thinking about trying one some day. Just for fun. But I think I am doing an RM-1 first.

[CRQ5508]

what's an RM-1?

[jay611]

google it like everyone else did...

Jason Underwood
Newport News, Virginia
CSX Peninsula Sub MP.16
jay611@cox.net

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[CSX4878]

RM-1 is a SLR rebuilt Road Motor. Kinda like the CSXT RDMT's. Only, from a GP40/-2

[CRQ5508]

oh that's what those things are. thanks for the info. now I have a question for some people. Why do some people tell you to google search something, when in the same amount of time you type "google search it", you could type out what something is. I'm sorry to me this just comes across as kind of rude. And I know for asking this someone will probaby send me a pretty rude message, or tell me to leave the forum if I don't like it, so if you are save it, I don't want to hear it. and I know I'm a noob, but guess what, you were all to at one point or another.

[jay611]

Pretty much im just one that feels... why take the time to post "whats a yadda yadda?" when you can do a simple search on the net and not waste time with reply. Rude or not, its a more logical way of doing things.

EDIT: Although had I been awake and in a slightly better mood at the time it would have been logical of me to post a link to these odd engines. Seems we both need to learn a few things.

Cheers,

Jason Underwood
Newport News, Virginia
CSX Peninsula Sub MP.16
WMRY303@hotmail.com

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[CSX4878]

A RM-1 also is used for tractive effort, same as the RDMT's of CSXT. They are equiped with Dynamic Braking for use when it is in the lead of a frieght train. Normally there is about 2 of these in a consist with two GP40-2's. Sometimes it's RM-1, GP40-2, GP40-2, RM-1 or GP40-2, RM-1, RM-1, GP40-2.

They are reliable, and all you'll hear in the cab is the scanner, horn, bell, dynamic braking, and somewhat the other two engines doing the effort with the RM-1's make better traction.

[goldenpig]

tee hee!


DBeck
=|GoldenPig
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www.streamlines.ca






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[ericmp]

Very nice as usual Danny! :)

[CRQ5508]

awesome shots. where'd you get them? i know they're not the ons from streamlines, those have the non-standard (at least for the GP40X) M-type blomberg trucks. While these ones have the HTB trucks.

[DualFlag]

He have make them, and not release

[goldenpig]

Yes, they are from my private collection and will, most likely, never see the light of a public release day. :-) They were always my favorite of the SP roster and decided to make them since I had the model already done with the SF version.

I've considered releasing them with a "rare birds" set of SP locos but it was decided that such a pack might not be as popular since such locos were of limited use and not at all common. Was going to release them with the a GP40P-2, SDP45, and SD35E. Maybe someday...

DBeck
=|GoldenPig
visit me at www.dannybeck.com
www.streamlines.ca

[BNSF650]

Danny that would be cool if you did realease them..I would buy em
BNSF Oklahoma

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[ASR_Q301]

SDP45?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :o

<Mike dies from all the drool>

>Mike Forster<
Perth, Western Australia

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[CSX4878]

>I've considered releasing them with a "rare birds" set of SP
>locos but it was decided that such a pack might not be as
>popular since such locos were of limited use and not at all
>common. Was going to release them with the a GP40P-2, SDP45,
>and SD35E. Maybe someday...




It's always the oddball engines to me that make the good downloads/sales.
I'd love to have a SDP45 and a GP40P-2.

I also wanted to ask, why did Southern Pacific use those style trucks on their GP40X models?

[CRQ5508]

it wasn't just the SP, the UP also used the,. They were an experimental truck, EMDs HTB truck. I'm going to give you all stats about the GP40X. so here goes. The GP40X was a 3500hp locomotive powered by a 16 cylinder 645F3 prim-mover. and to improve fuel economy the engines RPMs were lowered from the 645s 315rpms, to 250 rpms (ideling). These were the first EMD locomotive introduced with extended range Dynamic Braking. It also incorporated the new AR15 generator (which produced 4,680 amps, compared to the 4,200 of the AR10). It also had new D87 traction moters which had a 11% advantage over the older D77B (used in the GP40). These traction motors were hung on the new HTB truck. Now this beast of a four-axle had an enormous horsepower-to-axle rating. It had a rating of 875. higher than anything else at the time (the DDA40X, only had a 825 rating) It had a 70:17 gear ratio, producing 64,000lbs. or tractive effort at 9.8mph.
Hence the new HTB truck. since the GP40X had such high ratings, EMD developed the Super Series of traction control. it adjusts itself until the current load is maximum. it used a doppler-type radar to determine ground speed so it could adjust to conditions. with this Super Series system, the engineers aplication of sand was monitiored and at speeds of over 5 mph was not permitted. The super series had a 33% increase in tractive effort, over existing systems.
Basically the GP40X was a test-bed for the upcoming (and highly successful) GP50. A total of only 23 units were manufactured
AT&SF:10
UP:6
SP:4
SOU:3

[beltontigers]

funny..i spent my night on one of those..on the ATSF model, they have a little plaque on the back wall describing all "new" features

btw danny, i'd by 10 of those if you'd release an "oddball" pack ;)

[zartok-35]

Thoes would look "hella cool" going over the Cades. That is, if they ever made it to the Cades. I know the 40Xs never made it outta West Colton of something.

[ASR_Q301]

Hey Danny, I dont know if this is in your era or not, but how about a TrainMaster H2466 to fit in with the oddball pack? SP used them alot on Bay Area commuter trains up until the 1970's when the Geep40's took over I believe. Just an thought! ;)

>Mike Forster<
Perth, Western Australia

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[oakpalms]

Danny,
Were you the one who released the ATSF GP40X engines at KLW? I still have the ones that I downloaded and used them in activities to put on the downloads here at train-sim.com. I then had to redo the entire activities and have since decided not to upload them because KLW would not permit any further distribution of the downloads. I guess that means it is all a matter of money. I should have guessed. I was told that KLW did not want to be bothered by email support for the engines.

Anyway, thanks for the info on the engines.

Bob Edwards

[goldenpig]

No. I have only ever done work for MLT and Streamlines. The only 40X I've ever done for public release is the SF version of the 40X in the loco pack at Streamlines.

DBeck
=|GoldenPig
visit me at www.dannybeck.com
www.streamlines.ca

[ns_sd70m]

I actually feel that a vintage SP set would be quite popular. GP40Xs, SD40/45T-2s, and GP35Es were all very fine locos, IMO. :-)

[oakpalms]

Please excuse my comments then. You have always done great work on engines. I really like the weathered look on all of the streamlines engines. Most pay ware engines look like they just came out of the paint shop.

Bob Edwards

[TomG]

Yes, they are from my private collection and will, most
likely, never see the light of a public release day. :-) They
were always my favorite of the SP roster and decided to make
them since I had the model already done with the SF version.

I've considered releasing them with a "rare birds" set of SP
locos but it was decided that such a pack might not be as
popular since such locos were of limited use and not at all
common. Was going to release them with the a GP40P-2, SDP45,
and SD35E. Maybe someday...

DBeck
=|GoldenPig
visit me at www.dannybeck.com
www.streamlines.ca



I know this is a few months old, but while doing a search it popped up. It blows me away when I read that a release like this probably would be to popular. Did you actually look at your own pics Danny? Who in their right mind wouldnt want those or any other models of yours in their collection. Absolutly stunning. Glad i did the search just to see those.
Tom

[bessemer]

I found this on the Elvas Tower forums. All I can say is wow!

http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1396

[CRQ5508]

any idea if those are available? Also, i found these in the back ends of my computer. the only thing they need is some good weathering to make them look like they've put some good high speed miles on them.
I have no idea where they came from. All I remember is that these were my first MSTS downoad. I found this little tid-bit in the readme
AT&SF Freight Warbonnet GP40X #3805
09/19/04
By Kurt Kaminer - KLW TrainSim


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