low nosed RSD17

[CRQ5508]

I downloaded the high nosed version of the RSD17 from the canadian pacific website. it's a truley awesome model, but has anyone done a low nosed model? thanks

tom

[cp5513]

I guess you haven't scanned the file library here for CP 8921, look up 'cprs187.zip' and there you will find this gem from Jan Henning Gettkant.

[wmalder]

Jan's RSD17 is a very good model. I have only one small niggle with it. If you look at the picture below (from the Elgin County Railway Museum in St.Thomas, Ontario) you might not notice the one very unique property of the "Empress of Agincourt". Look at the stripes on the nose then look at any other CP Rail locomotive. To my knowledge, the Empress is the only CP locomotive to have it's stripes go in that direction, opposite to standard practice. Why? I have no idea. Perhaps as an homage to it's uniqueness as the only one of her kind. Perhaps as a joke. Does anyone out there know?



http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/119012.jpg

[CRQ5508]

i downloaded Jan's model. i am impressed, but i knew something was wrong with it, i just couldn't place my finger on it. but i'm not sure either why they painted the nose stripes backwards.... is the locomotive still servicable, or has she been gutted and stuffed? i'd love to see this girl hit the rails again on excursion trips (same with the M640) but that probably won't happen....

[wmalder]

Last I heard she was complete and operable. The concern was, as I understand it, that the trucks were worn out (or some part of) and it was no longer practical to keep repairing her (for CP). I believe she has been used for excursions etc. At the present she's apparently undergoing some restoration and I've seen photographs more recent than mine that show her in primer ready for a new coat of Action Red. However, her future may be up in the air as the Elgin County Railway Museum may not have a home for too much longer. The ex-NYC shop in which they're housed doesn't belong to them, as I understand the situation, and is in need of serious repair if not demolition. Also, the land on which it sits belongs to CN AFAIK and was part of the CASO (CAnadian SOuthern) line from Detroit to Buffalo. CN and CP have torn most of this line up since acquiring it in ca.1990 I'd guess to keep it from falling into the hands of any competition. The line is dead and what's left is dying. Soon there may be no tracks through St.Thomas and the old yard is being sold off for development. Even the future of the former CASO/NYC station is in question the last I heard.

[rdamurphy]

I made a delivery one time to the Rio Grande's Burnham shops, and as a "former" model railroader, I asked them if I could maybe get a paint chip or small sample of the "official" Rio Grande Orange used on their modern locomotives. Since the paint shops are there, I was pretty hopeful! The receiver walked over to a cabinet, opened it, and said, "Here, you can have a whole can of it!"

It was Krylon Orange. Just like what they sell at WalMart...

In other words, my guess is that the guy who painted it was new, didn't have another one close by to compare it, flipped the drawings over, or worked for Alco and just didn't know...

Robert