Would somebody create a bridge for me

[evilkat]

I was wondering if some of the scenery artist would help me by building a bridge for my route I'm building, the bridge is the interstate 10 bridge in Lake Charles,La which is a landmark in this area, if anybody is intrested let me know and I'll get some pics for y'all, I would try to create it but my scratch scenery skills are to poor to create something like this, so can y'all please help.

[evilkat]

These are pics of the bridge off of google earth,but if anybody is intrested in trying to help create this I'll be home this weekend and I'll have all the closeups you can want, thanks
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-101.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-102.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-103.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-104.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-105.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-106.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-107.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-108.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-109.jpg

[inflammable]

Teemu Saukkonen created a bunch of freeway shapes, called 7overlying_freeway.s up to 7overlying_freeway7.s. I didn't see them in the F/L, but, if you have, or can get, the Newark and Jersey City route, they are in there. He created a lot of very useful things, and most are in that route somewhere

James

[evilkat]

I have that route and there's nothing really I could use to compare to what I need I appreciate the info though

[Highball116]

You should probably post this over in the "Items Wanted" forum. I imagine you'll get more of a response there than here.

- Toby

[rpicardi1]

The shadows clearly define the type of bridge this is and its layout. The traffic gives a scale to the bridge.

I assume it is for the highway use at a distance. I looked through my archive thinking I had done one in the past. Nope, just two suspension bridges.

Construction of this one, like the suspension bridges, would make extensive use of alpha channels and tiled textures from my existing bridge textures. Looks like a low arch, not suspended, design. It can be done as one to three section for the total span and approaches.

Currently, busy with a major museum inventory project, the Tiny Trains display this weekend in Owosso at the Michigan Steam Insitute, and trying to find employment in a state where there are no jobs of any kind anywhere in the Saginaw valley, thanks to the "Graham Cracker" Michigan economy and the liberal ruined city of Saginaw. August job report, 128,000 new jobs created nationwide as Michigan lost 29,000 jobs. (The 11,000 manfacturing jobs lost nationwide were from Michigan.)

Have plans for modeling some quality city housing for MSTS in the future. Abandoned, burned out, stripped, falling apart, broken doors and windows, have lots of photos from the "Urban Jungle." Stay away from areas where there are sneakers habging from the trees or power lines. That's where all of the drive by shootings are happening lately. 2 dead 11 wounded this week alone.

SRV Ron

[evilkat]

Well I appreciate y'alls replys,Ron the bridge actually run real close to the railroad if you look in a couple of the pictures such as the first one it runs right under it and the rest of the pictures on the top sides of them you can see a little bit of the railbed crossing the water also.

Also you are right about it being a low arch bridge,but from water to top of arch is 192ft, this bridge has a 6% grade on the road deck.

And if you can see in the shadows the bridge supports from water out to end go , concrete two leg supports, metal frame supports with every third boxed, and the last 10 supports under the bridge are two leg concrete supports.

If y'all are willing to help with this I will be home this weekend,I'll get all the close up pictures you want showing the supports and how close it is to the railroad. Thanks

[rpicardi1]

Some side shots will help. looks like the areas closer to the track and where the track goes under the approach would be post and girder. Open web girders farther on can be done with alpha channel as the track is now further from the bridge. Road deck about 150ft above the channel? Side view of that part of the span, four piers, appears to be the main construction of the low arch. Rest is just the combination steel viaduct and post and girder approaches.

It won't be this weekend, perhaps during the week between other projects and trying to obtain temporary employment in an area where no one is hiring. 128,000 new jobs created nation wide in August but 29,000 were lost in Michigan which included the lost 11,000 manfacturing jobs reported for the nation.

The slow part of construction is fabrication of the arch and support span, the 4 center pier section as one piece. Had to add cross braces to square panel tile section as I got too much distortion in cross braces of the one high arch bridge that I did. Rest is quite easy. Just fabricate three pier, concrete, metal, and frame, and make many copies. Single tiled four lane road deck for each approach.

We have an interesting prestressed concrete vaulted viaduct across the Saginaw River shipping channel. Shallow arches are box beam construction with 5 lane wide road deck. The arches span about 450 feet and completly span the river. See the Terrserver photo The bridge is actually two bridges side by side and in an s shape. They were constructed in segments which were then trucked across the bridge as it was assembled with each segiment picked up by a huge construction derrick that spanned three piers using them for support. Segiments were then glued together with epoxy and steel rods threaded through holes and tensioned. Took several years to complete this as only four segiments a day could be glued together and there was a two year delay when a pier pad cracked under the extra weight of the crane causing the bridge to suddenly drop 5 feet. They almost lost the whole thing in this accident. The delay was caused due to the expense and time of repairing the pier, pad and foundation, and having to jack the bridge back up the five feet. There is still a sag in that section today on that bridge. It is also very hazardous to drive across it during a snow storm in winter as the highway department cannot use road salt on this bridge and must use the more expensive less effective deicer used on airport runways. That bridge would be difficult to model due to the shallow arches and S shape roadbed design. Poly count would go out of sight on that one. There are two railroad tracks under the West side. Just out of the picture is the road crossing where the Cental Michigan freight T-Boned the gravel truck.

Pictures taken at noon in the summer so there is almost no shadow to reference the bridge shape and height across the river. The bridge starts and ends where the ramps merge into the bridge. You can clearly see the s shape design of the twin bridge which are seperated by only 5 feet from each other. The 2 lines on the North span are shadows from road signs that bridge the 5 lanes of the bridge deck.

SRV Ron

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/110128.jpg



http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/110129.jpg

[evilkat]

Well I appreciate your help Ron, I'm gonna be home tommorrow so as soon as I get home I'll get those pictures to you.

But just to let you know you don't have to get in a rush to do it. I understand whats going on with your problem, so whenever you can get around to it I appreciate it.

Also just to let you know about this bridge also, it has no shoulders on it, It was build in the early to mid 50's so it doesn't have the modern safty designs in it.

[evilkat]

Here's the side shots of the bridge Ron there is also 2 showing how close from the railroad the bridge is, one from the rail to the bridge and the other from the bridge to the rail. Thanks
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/c761e41b.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/c1c45376.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/61c1a097.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/3510d9f3.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/6a244c2f.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/05a79e33.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/a168add0.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-10Bridge008.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-10Bridge013.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/evilkat_photos/I-10Bridge012.jpg

[rpicardi1]

I'll leave out the details except at the concrete piers under the track.

SRV Ron

[evilkat]

Thanks I appreciate it.

[rpicardi1]

Working on the West approach at present. The Google photos give an approximate size and length. In spite of making this a low detail structure, there is enough details needed in the approaches that this bridge is going to need assembly to avoid MSTS poly limits. Looks like five sections for now.

Should this bridge be set up as East-West assembly, (Risk of losing objects to the Twilight Zone, or default North South, (Much easier to assemble but will have to be rotated into position as one selected unit?) West approach is over 2000 feet long.

SRV Ron

[evilkat]

I appreciate your update and your help Ron.

[rpicardi1]

E-mail sent with beta.

Lake Charles I-10 bridge is complete in 5 sections. The canter span is the smallest of the 5 sections in polys. The approach piers are the ones needing all of the polys.

SRV Ron.

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/110913.jpg

[evilkat]

I got your E-mail Ron, and I have to say you did a VERY good job on the bridge,I appreciate your time and effort on it. thanks