PRR Routes - THIS SOUNDS UTERLY IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!

[trainsimer101]

I check the File Library Countless times for something worth while, I got all this Pennsy equipment and nothing to use it ON. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOBODY HAS MADE A PRR ROUTE??????????, NOT 1. Someone inlighten me, I need 1, I like using my pennsy equipment :(

[longislandmike]

Well if you know your Pennsy, you'll know the Northeast Corridor was built by the Pennsy and the Pennsy ran it until Penn Central. Look in the files there are a lot of activities that use Pennsy equipment for it.


Mike

[jay611]

No need to yell.

There are some in the works... be Patent. Use the Lehigh Valley route and run models from the merger into CR if your that desperate.

Cheers,

Jason Underwood
Newport News, Virginia
CSX Peninsula Sub MP.16
Jay611@cox.net
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/jay611/ESHR_GP38_2014_L.gif

[ATSF107]

>I check the File Library Countless times for something worth
>while, I got all this Pennsy equipment and nothing to use it
>ON. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOBODY HAS MADE A PRR
>ROUTE??????????, NOT 1. Someone inlighten me, I need 1, I like
>using my pennsy equipment :(
Well thank you very much for volunteering to make a new route!

[trainsimer101]

The Northeast Corridor, The AMtrak Passanger route, Yeah I know Pennsy ran that, Buts passanger service, STOP & GO stuff, I tried to make that route interesting, I threw in some coach swithcing activites, its impossible to do. I meant like a Pennsy freight route, like maybe around altoona, or Buffalo, or something. I have steam diesel, all the nice Freight stuff, no where to go...

The running PRR equipment on LV with Conrail, eh, I hate to do that, Its a...., well, this is MY opinion, I live around the Lehig Gap so this is what i think, and for reasons you can all prolly guess, ITS just a discrace to the equipment, Conrail was the worst railroad I've ever heard of or even set eyes on. THey tore up LV trackage around here, THEY SCRAPPED ALL THE ALCOS!!!!!!!!! BY 1981, very few LV OR Pennsy engines remain, BARELY Anything survived from the 1976 consolidation past 1984....., The list goes on & on, The 1 thing Conrail did that i like, was dissappear in 1997, YAY!!!!!!! O, what did survive from Conrails Grip....

All 4 Gp38AC's, All but 2 GP38-2's, some SW8's, a few S2's that were sold before 1976, a few S4's, 2 GE U23's, a SW7 or so, And some Pennsy E's and GP's, A lucky RS-3, and SW-1 from LV. Conrail was A CON, Consolidated Rail System.

This is y I refuse to Model conrail on my HO Layout. I like speaking my opinion, sorry to anyone to Road with Conrail, but THIS IS THE TRUTH, and I'm sure you know. TOTAL Opinion, with FACTS^^^^^.

I may make the activities for Conrail, but I'll never use them myself.

[cnotp]

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~bllw/

[trainsimer101]

There are plenty on Norfolk Southern Routes, which was origianlly N&W, Southern Ry, yeah possibly, but where did N&W come out of my PRR subject???????

[bm_89]

>>HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOBODY HAS MADE A PRR ROUTE??????????

Because noone did. Wanna be the first?

[Nscale1700]

Look at this link more closely... somebody's forgetting about the BLLW Middle Division...

[trainsimer101]

Your right, I did forget about the middle Division, OOPS!!!!!

Lol, I won't be the first to make one, my computer would die from me using the editor constantly. And it prolly wouldn't look to good een after 4years, lol.

I'm also downloading Chicagoland right now, I'll put some pennsy stuff on that.

GO TO THE ACTIVITY SECTION FOR MORE DETAILS......

Long Live THE PENNSY!!!

[Richard]

Nathan,
OK now the real facts. First you should have posted this in the Items Wanted forum, this forum is for questions about existing routes. Secondly, the Lehigh Valley was a bankrupt railroad, along with the other roads that were merged together to create Conrail. When Conrail was created by the Federal Government, it's purpose was to create a stable railroad in the Northeast and Midwest, which it did. For those who do not know, Conrail paid back the Federal Government all the money the Federal Government loaned to it and was a profitable corporation paying dividends on its stock when it was sold by it's board of directors. Why did Conrail pull up LV trackage, it was not needed! Why did Conrail scrap first and second generation equipment like the Alco's, they were wore out units from a defunct builder that suffered from lack of maintenance from the previous railroads. You may not like Conrail, but without the Federal Government passing the Staggers Act that created Conrail, the ex-PRR railroad you are so found of would have been a hiking and biking trail today. Conrail was a well run and efficient railroad with a first class right of way and first class equipment.

Have a nice day,
Rich S.

[trainsimer101]

Well, profitable, if you mean the last 10 years of its life, Conrail was truely profitable to around 1986. Some of the ALCO's may have been worn out, but just a lil grease and some money, they would have done the same amount of effort they did their original buyers in the late 1960's. Infact, certain railroads shared this same opinion, namely, which one is it, I forget, the 1 that D&H sold all the C420's to, THEY ARE STILL USED, see, you can go find them yet. THey are actually some of the few surviving alcos from the merger.

Well, I can see the trackage on the one side of the river, but Taring up the secondary track through the Lehigh Valley, THAT was needed, it was there for a purpose.

Conrail may have been formed by the government, Those railroads may have been bankrupt, BUT most were made into BIKE & Hiking TRAILS anyway.

Sorry, it was posted in the wrong section.

Conrail is gone, NOW Norfolk Southern IS KING. And a well deserved RULE it is.

[CRQ5508]

Hey, woah!!! hold your horses there. a few things with your last post. One and most importantly, watch what you say about another railroad. what you said is an invitation to start a flame war. If you haven't noticed, there are ALOT of Conrail fans out here, me being one of them. Also, the reason Conrail was split up was because of how large and successful it was!!! and there was good reason to get arid of the old ALCOs. They were beaten done and worn out. Why keep rebuilding and maintaining a fleet of aging ALCOs from the 50's and 60's, when for the same price as it would take to constantly rebuild an ALCO each year (as beaten and worn as they were), when for the same price you could buy a new SD40-2, or C30-7? Also notice Conrails main locations, through the Allegheneys of Pennsylvania. Why string together 6 or so four axle ALCOs, when you get put together 4 new locomotives with better horse-power and greater tractive effort? Conrail was a very smart, pofitable, and successful railroad. Also Those surving ALCOs had the time and effort put into them by a rairoad with well established routes, at the time Conrail sold them off, it was only a new railroad, with little income coming in, a deteriorating track condition, and a lack of good, reliable locomotives, so it found it profitable to get arid of those and buy new.

[oakpalms]

I think you will find that the Conrail Indy route was a major PRR line through Indiana. I know that the old PRR lines went east from Indy to Richmond and then over to Dayton, Ohio.

Bob Edwards

[geepster775]

Someone has finished the trackwork on the Pittsburgh/Columbus Panhandle line, along with a branch via Zanesville to Morrow OH, where it hooks up with the Little Miami RR and goes on into Cincinnati. Also includes the Ohio Connecting bridge and Scully yard near Pittsburgh. The line has signals from the extreme east end (along the Mon Line) to about the PA/WV border. All thats needed is scenery and the remainder of the signals!

A "working copy" of the route can be downloaded from here:

http://derr98.homeip.net/trains/index.htm


http://derr98.homeip.net/trains/Oak3.jpg


Everything in the darker red color is the completed trackwork in this route.

http://derr98.homeip.net/trains/PHmap.jpg

[Richard]

Hello Bob,
If I remember correctly, the Indy line was ex-NYC. The Pennsy line went thru Columbus. I think the eastern end was known as the Panhandle and from Columbus west was the St Louis line.

Take care,
Rich S.

[streamline]

Hallo!
And there also is a link to GreatNortherner's site (GNHiline) announcing he's going to complete the route step by step.

Keep on steamin'!
Dietmar

[dndwilliams]

I also have the unfinished MSTS version of this route and have run on it. Trackwork, some right-of-way structures and terrain seem OK. I think that it has great possibilities. I'm just wondering if there is any recent news about anybody working on finishing it. It's a big route and will involve a lot of work. The last that I heard was that somebody was working on adding scenery in the New Lexington, Ohio area. In the real world of long-ago, I used to use part of the panhandle to commute between Dennision, Ohio and Columbus, Ohio. In recent years I've also been on trips on the Ohio Central over part of the route. One of these included an unscheduled stop to remove a fallen tree from the right-of-way. Fortunately some railfans overheard our radio conversation and brought us some saws from the nearest road crossing.

Rich

[CSX4878]

It's always nice to see these topics.

Specially when a few people come in, and say "do it yourself" with not even one suggestion to use another route or what not.

Reminds me of when I first showed up here in the forums, and was told the same things, I see nothing has changed.

Anyways, yes the NEC V4 is a good choice to run PRR stock. You can do both freight, and passenger, steam, diesel and early electric.
with the NEC v4, there is plenty of choices for the PRR itself. Road freight, switchers, passenger trains, and local runs.

What we really lack, is the lack of good New England routes. Which I am slowly working on two of them atm.

[rpicardi1]

Be paitent, PRR Eastern Division is now in beta testing. Soon as signal repairs are done along the NEC, the route should soon be available as a mini route along with the PRR stock and all bin patches needed to run all 3000 miles.

SRV Ron

[NS4Life]

Well yes the Ohio Central route is part of the PRR's Panhandle. The OC route could be run with PRR or Conrail, but a lot of track changes have been made since them days.

The OC route is finished up and ready to release pending the rolling stock is finished.


NS4Life

www.blueridgerails.com

[rpicardi1]

Some updated photos;

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126815.jpg


http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126816.jpg


http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126817.jpg


http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126818.jpg


http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126819.jpg


http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126820.jpg

I'll have more to post in Screen Shot Forum later.

SRV Ron

[maiatcat]

The pictures that Ron posted are all from the PRR eastern region route which will soon finished its specialized beta testing and a public beta will be available after the new year. It will be released as a mini-route and probably on dvd.

[rfranzosa]

.... and in early 2008 Gaetan and I plan to release a complimentary set of PRR equipment to grace this route, similar conceptually to the NYC passenger and NYC freight sets released earlier this year. A pre-production model of an E-7 is shown below (still needs additional PRR specific details).

RGF

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/up1/126827.jpg

[maiatcat]

This route will include NEC 4.0 completely re-scenicked and re-signalled to the PRR prototype.

[TVRRMAN]

Ok, Now you've made me break my vows of silence...

The Middle Division (version offered by BLLW) has been out of circulation with no intentions to make it available again. The Eastern Region mentioned is an entirely different route, with plenty of changes made.

BLLW Did have a replacement payware route underway originally under construction. Original intentions were to replicate the PRR Between Upper Sandusky, Ohio, and Mansfield, Ohio. The Focal point was to be the town of Crestline, where the PRR and NYC Crossed, and the PRR maintained a massive roundhouse that until this year, stood.

Now what would have run here? Well, since this line was relatively level and mostly arrow straight, K4's, H9 2-8-0's, massive J1 2-10-4's, The Experimental Q1, S1, and S2, the successful Q2 Duplex, The T-1's and a barrage of Diesel power would have run. The S-1 was run between here and Chicago, having to be turned on a wye in Crestline (as the engine exceeded the turntable length).

Why was it never finished (you'll be asking possibly next): Answering this further, I incurred major problems. While I acquired all the data I could on the Q2's and the T-1's, the cost of acquiring the technical data for the S-1 and S-2 was too much ($200 for prints...)

Track is laid only partially. I never made it to Crestline Roundhouse, nor did I make it to Upper Sandusky or even Mansfield. The Motive power and rolling stock also never really materialized, due to numerous outside contracts that materialized and fell though.

I may finish this project one day and release it if anyone can provide the technical data and other sources to finish it.

[mnjrr]

Hello,

Rick, outstanding work from you and Gaetan as always!

I would like to take the opportunity to use this thread with the goal of bringing up an interest of mine, that is to say, seeing a new GG1 model come out for MSTS. Hopefully, the upcoming PRR route might spurn additional interest with others in a model.

Let me first state that the NALW GG1 was and still is an excellent model that came not too long after MSTS debuted! I know that Gaetan told me that he doesn’t have experience with modeling electric locomotives. Rick mentioned that he has encountered difficulty with updating the textures on the NALW GGI set by Cameron Lashley. Therefore, I think eventually with the release of the PRR Eastern Region route a new GG1 would be a great.

I don’t have the experience with GMAX. Still this not one of those ubiquitous "I want" posts. I would offer my skills attained as a recent college graduate, who majored in history, with helping someone, who is interested in doing a model of the GG1, with doing researching on this locomotive.

Sincerely,
Walter Conklin

[rfranzosa]

In my view, the current (unintended pun) king of electrics is Frank Musick. Frank, you wanna tackle the GG-1 after you conquer the Milwaukee?

RGF

[FireEngine]

I would like to know when approximately next year 2008 this route on DVD will be released, how much money will it cost for us to get it, can we place advanced orders for it and what will the route cover like the Northeast Corridor and from Altoona, PA to New York, NY. Please reply back to me with your thoughts on this subject. Thanks a lot.

[rpicardi1]

Looking for a public beta release in January. We are working with a way to distribute the stand alone route on DVD. Updates will be posted in the forum library.

Cost will be strictly for the media and shipping. No one will be making any money on this project.

[maiatcat]

The only additional requirement is you will have to have a dvd reader or dvd reader/writer. The route is too big to distribute by download (the uploading is harder). Maia

[FireEngine]

I would like to know is this route going to cover the Northeast Corridor Version 4.0 and from Atloona, PA to New York, NY both or just the NEC V 4.0. Please reply back to me and let me know about this. Thanks a lot.

[rpicardi1]

Route goes from the tunnels at the Horseshoe Curve, to Alatoona, to Harrisburg, to New York, to Long Island, several of the shortcuts, or through Philadelphia, The Reading commuter track, the Port Road, the NEC from New York to Washington DC, what is currently the CSX from Philadelphia to DC, the commuter track around Baltimore, and the commuter lines around DC. That's some 3,000 miles of track to play on.

[FireEngine]

I would like to know if this route is going to be 100% sceneried with all of the sidings, yards, industry, signals and things like that in it, are there going to be any activities released with it, what web-site will we be able to order it from, what part of next month does it plan to come out and what era of time will it cover. Please reply back to me and let me know about this. Thanks a lot.

[maiatcat]

You might want to go to the screen shot forum for some of the information you seek; here is my summation:

"PRR eastern Region
I have a few questions about it of my own.

1) Is this route going to be set in any particular era?
Of course, PRR 1947-1957 and any other era.. though all PRR signaling (position lites)


2) Will the CSX route (Philly and Capitol subs) be more realistic looking than that of NECV4?
Please call it the B and O! We have not touched the B and O trackage except to improve the scenery. Had had to install gantries because of the overhead wiring. We have come up with a method to remove the wiring if you are running west of Harrisburg.

3) With the Reading Commuter lines out of Philly, will they be modeled with Reading Terminal, the Center City Commuter Tunnel connecting the Reading Trunk with Suburban Station including Market East, or with both? We broke the junction!! Reading terminal is included. Suburban station is pure PRR!!!! As for the other stations, you should contact Kyle Ortiz who is solely responsible for the reading material.

4) Will the Amtrak Keystone Corridor (Harrisburg Line) be included in the route? Amquack hell no. If you mean the PRR mainline that runs from NYC to Chicago, we include teh trackage from Pennsylvania Station in NYC to Cresson, PA. The Middle Division is an upgrade of the early work done by Bill Aukamp and Mike DiMaio (the curve matches the version in the realworld as far as the gradiant goes). It has had additional scenery added. MikeinNE and Ron Picardi worked on that.

5) Will Hook interlocking be included between Marcus Hook and Highland Avenue? Anything south of Pennsylvania Station (30th Street) in Philadelphia is rescenicked NEC 4.0. If Vince included the location you mentioned, it is there.

As I said above, this is looking great! When I have the oppurtunity to acquire it, I will try an Acela run from DC to NYP. Keep the great work coming, guys! You should run GG1s not AMquack."


Details of release are far from finalized. As for scenery, we have been working on it 4 years. We are finishing it currently. Everything is scenicked that we are going to scenic pending reports from beta testers. We are fine tuning things. Remember this will be a public beta release. We are a long was from any final release. We have three people working almost day and night to complete this. I watch their work with awe. Two are actually working, while the third is testing.

There are a total of 6 activities that amount to about 20 hours of driving time. They follow the 1949 timetable of the PRR and they include AI traffic.

[rpicardi1]

Scenery upgrades from the Susquehanna River Bridge, to farmland, to Baltimore, tunnel vents, Klingon Lawn Products, Bowing Aerospace, etc. Many new buildings and more realistic gantry including elevated high voltage poles over the overpasses.

Another forum limit hit. The rest won't upload.

[rpicardi1]

The rest including my new 40s style prefab industrial structures.

[chucksc]

The rest including my new 40s style prefab industrial structures.

A.K.A. Quonset Huts

[rpicardi1]

I have lots of quonset huts which were also popular and quickly constructed. The new buildings are the large sheet steel and glass heavy industrial buildings built during the 40s.

I have also added two boiler room buildings with boilers. One is glass and metal structure, the other older brick with large windows.

[BocaREB]

I know this is a really dumb question, I am new to this forum and I haven't as yet bought MSTS. I am REALLY interested in this PRR route thread as the route and equipment would be the reason for me to buy. Now for my question. How do I get the beta for this route (and the NEC4 to tide me over until this perfect one is available) to add to MSTS? I don't see any links to files, etc. as in Yahoo groups.

[kevarc]

I know this is a really dumb question, I am new to this forum and I haven't as yet bought MSTS. I am REALLY interested in this PRR route thread as the route and equipment would be the reason for me to buy. Now for my question. How do I get the beta for this route (and the NEC4 to tide me over until this perfect one is available) to add to MSTS? I don't see any links to files, etc. as in Yahoo groups.

You have to be asked to be a beta tester.

[rpicardi1]

There will be an announcement when the route is ready for public beta. We are working on a way to distribute it on DVD due to the size and special bin requirements to resolve the usual MSTS bugs. Tentative date sometime in January. Currently, Kyle and I are working on getting scenery upgrade work on the NEC.

DC, Baltimore, and Philly are slow going due to the heavy urban scenery needed and the amount of track in those area.

[nighttrain23]

Why was it never finished (you'll be asking possibly next): Answering this further, I incurred major problems. While I acquired all the data I could on the Q2's and the T-1's, the cost of acquiring the technical data for the S-1 and S-2 was too much ($200 for prints...)
I may finish this project one day and release it if anyone can provide the technical data and other sources to finish it.

So why not release the Q2 and the T1? As an aside, what documents are needed for your build? Looking for spot on, or can you do the best for release?

[maiatcat]

A T-1 was released by Tom at least five years ago.

[TVRRMAN]

So why not release the Q2 and the T1? As an aside, what documents are needed for your build? Looking for spot on, or can you do the best for release?

Nighttrain23,

While I know this does not belong in this forum (But rather Locomotive Design), I'll still answer that.

Within BLLW, our main mission that we setout to do with the initial release (Beginning with the H21a megapack 1.0) is to produce highly accurate, museum quality models that capture and operate like the real engine, or rolling stock did in it's time period.

What's this entail? For all models, we prefer to maintain a 99% Error margin (meaning 99% accurate). keeping us within this margin are the prototype pictures, HO Models (Used when necessary as a visual for when an item's placement is not clear from our other data), Clear and legible blueprints, usually we also maintain and document the weights of a car (Some cars like the H21a weigh different when loaded versus empty, and in turn have a major impact on a train's physics). Some models in my end of the shops actually took 200 hours alone (Just for a shape that's accurate).

At this point on the MSTS T-1, I have one in the shops in line for artwork (There's only so much time in a given day), and the Q2 only in AutoCAD with major shaping issues.

A further "dousing of the fire" is that we also prefer to have accurate cab's for our locomotives, whether it be steam or diesel. For diesel we have a hefty selection of cabs we can alias to, but for the accurate T-1 or Q2 Cab's, the few that did do steam cabs had told us on a discussion that basically he was done with MSTS Cabs, and would move onto the next.

Sorry for my almost negative outlook on this, and for the long discussion. I hope this has answered what goes into all these models.

[nighttrain23]

I was just wondering as video of this engine exists. But I do understand the quest for realism and how important that is to all of us. Maybe in MSTS 2 :D Keep up the good work!

[Literalman]

I'm working on the Blue Comet line from Jersey City to Atlantic City but am including the New York & Long Branch (Perth Amboy to Bay Head), which was jointly run by the Pennsy and the Jersey Central, along with the Pennsy from Farmingdale to Sea Girt. Also, the stretch from Winslow Junction to Atlantic City was used by Pennsylvania Reading Seashore Lines, which saw a lot of Pennsy trains.

I've laid a lot of track but the route is a long way from release. Much work remains.

[tydev417]

Wow! I am surely looking forward to this new PRR route! It can easily be considered the "Dorset Coast" or "Thames-Mersey" of the US.

[FireEngine]

I would like to know how this route is progressing to be publicly released before the end of this month and how much money will it cost for it and can we place advanced orders for it as well. Please reply back to me on this subject. Thanks a lot. I am looking forward to this route a lot as well.

[rpicardi1]

Route in the final cleanup and testing stages. Still doing work along the B&O which runs parallel to the NEC to upgrade scenery. Also, commuter lines in Baltimore and DC need to have upgrades finished.

Public Beta of this route to be made available in a few weeks as a mini route on DVD as, at 1.8G compressed, it is too large for an upload. That way, all patches to bin and all consists will be included. Details on distribution are not yet finalized but will be handles by one of our beta testers with cost being for media production and shipping.

Further upgrading is planned with updates to be uploaded to the forum library.

[FireEngine]

I would like to know how this route is still progressing to be released soon to public beta because I haven't heard about it for about 2 weeks now and am really really looking forward to this especially driving from Altoona, PA all the way to New York on it. Please reply back to me and let me know about this subject. Thanks a lot.

[maiatcat]

Work progresses. We are tying up loose ends. The official answer is we will go into dvd release mode when gantries have been adjusted from Harrisburg to NYC.

[dedwa15237]

Gantry replacement work is pretty much complete on the Port Road section on this route. Had to correct all the gantries to realistic ones. We are still currently beta-testing the whole route. It's a lot of work, yes and lots of corrections and actions needs to be taken care of.

Dave





Work progresses. We are tying up loose ends. The official answer is we will go into dvd release mode when gantries have been adjusted from Harrisburg to NYC.

[maiatcat]

Actually, we have caught most of the errors we are aware of. We are under no illusion that once it is in the public domain, other eyes will find errors that we missed. We are currently adding gantries to reduce the space between pre-existing gantries.

Gantry replacement work is pretty much complete on the Port Road section on this route. Had to correct all the gantries to realistic ones. We are still currently beta-testing the whole route. It's a lot of work, yes and lots of corrections and actions needs to be taken care of.

Dave

[aposjf12]

I'm new to this forum. It doesn't seem like this has been released? Can I still request to be a beta tester? If so let me know. I would love to drive into Penn Station.

[maiatcat]

It will be released as a public beta very very soon! Details to follow in several weeks.

[maiatcat]

In passing, it is worth noting that we shall be closing down the first construction phase of the PRR Eastern region tomorrow night at midnight. The packing phase then begins. The release of the actual beta route will be announced by some one other than me in the near future.

[AMSR]

Can't wait to play this route. I have been looking forward to it! Thanks for all the hard work.

Aaron

[maiatcat]

Construction phase is over for the time being. We begin the packaging phase now.

[FireEngine]

Construction phase is over for the time being. We begin the packaging phase now.

I would like to know what web-site will we be able to order it from and what method of payments will you accept for it and can we pre-order it early. Please reply back to me and let me know. Thanks a lot.

[maiatcat]

All I can tell you now is that you will be able to pay for it by pay pal. You cannot preorder it because we are still working out the details. More later.

[chucksc]

It also should be noted that this is not for profit (eg not payware)

The fee will be to cover our duplication and mailing expenses as this puppy is way to big to download...

[maiatcat]

We have made progress; we have shipped the finished route to one of our beta testers who has promised to help us slim down the route's size by eliminating unused shapes and the like. Mike in NE has used winrar to create a good self installer which, after my own testing works fine. I am hoping that our trainer will be able to slim the route down to size in the next two weeks. More as work progresses. Maia

[FireEngine]

I would like to know what is the current status of this route because I haven't heard any updates for a while on this and would like to know if it is close to being finished so that I can pay for it and receive it in the mail when it comes out. Please reply back to me on this subject and let me know any updates on this route. Thanks a lot.

[Hawk]

I would like to know what is the current status of this route because I haven't heard any updates for a while on this and would like to know if it is close to being finished so that I can pay for it and receive it in the mail when it comes out. Please reply back to me on this subject and let me know any updates on this route. Thanks a lot.
Check this thread. http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/showthread.php?t=269193

[pclawser]

Please include the community of Palmyra, between Lebanon and Hershey, so I can wave to my sister.

[rpicardi1]

Please include the community of Palmyra, between Lebanon and Hershey, so I can wave to my sister.

As the route is set in the 40 - 50s, if it is a newer stop, it is probably not there. Lebanon is in the platform listing while Hersey and Palmyra are not.

[pennsyfan2]

IIRC Lebanon is on the end of the branch that comes onto the Keystone Corridor just east of Royalton at Conemaugh. As I remember it was freight only. Palmyra would be on the Reading RR's line from Phila to Harrisburg which is now operated by NS which has not been built yet, and may not ever be built (never say never:) )