GP38-2 Progress Thread

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

nearing model completion. This is based on a BNSF prototype. there will be a more generic version with lights over the cab too.

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1175.jpg

[mard]

Looks great:) Bout time we got a new locomotive to the sim:D

[boldri]

wow, looking good.

[jamesc25313]

wow, some black paint and a horse head logo would look nice on that!

[BN1970]

Nice work, Justin! Good to see your talents breathing a little more life into RS. Will look forward to repaint a few of those!

[MontanaRailLink]

Looks really nice! So, when modelling locomotives, do you start with a polygon and use a subtractive method or model various shapes and fuse the together? Do you think you'll use the stock SD40 cab interior with some mods or create a new one?

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

both ways really. it depends on the shape. i think at first this will use the default cab interior. making new ones is a lot of work. im only one person.

[ENTrainman]

looks great!

[orange94shadow]

nice!

[jeffmorris]

Will there be GPs with high short hoods?

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

Well YEA!

[seaboardairline]

Looks great! When you paint her up, can you dirty her a bit to give a slighty used look?
Arthur

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

ok some quick renders as i progress on the texture maps. i havnt started on the weathering yet, but trust me i will. im getting to the point that i have to figure out the krs lighting materials in preparation to export this into the game.

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1176.jpg

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1177.jpg

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1178.jpg

[therock]

Looks good Justin, keep it up :)

[els1223]

WOW!!!!!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek:

THATS AWSOME!!!!!!!!!

[pensfan17]

Excellent!!!

Al

[KHR2141]

KRS will be back on my PC once that beauty is released! :D

[nikos1]

Great work Justin, cant wait to run some of your models in KRS. Might get me back into skinning:D

[trackman44]

Was just wondering. Are you going to allias the SD40-2 cab from the game or make your own? Don't forget to do the animations ( wipers, wheels, fans, etc). Take care and keep up the good work.

trackman44:)

[Nscale1700]

1: Where did you find a real BNSF GP-38 that looked that clean?

2: How did you get it posed in an all-grey background?

3: Or is that actually a 3D model you did? ;-) No way, it looks too real! Keep up the great work!!!

[Juan-k]

Hi NSscale!!

If NS_37 allow me, I can answer two of your quuestions..firts, I think that the textures are made in photoshop, maybe based on a photo but it is not directly a photo, second it's appear that its a screenshot of a 3D Studio RENDER, maybe i'm wrong, correct me if it's necessary...


AWESOME MODEL!!! keep like that!! it's seem that is goingo to be the best add-on to KRS.


Regards, Juan!

[jamesc25313]

yeah, it looks like a render in 3ds max, I could be wrong because I have been wrong once or twice before.

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

well, its coming along pretty well considering (that i dont know what im doing). ive got some geometry test shots from in the game. i couldnt reach the site so ive made much progress since then. now you can couple to traincars and pull them around! shes got couplers now... a big plus for a train locomotive.
working on cab interior sometime today/night.

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1179.jpg

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1180.jpg

[nikos1]

Very nice Justin! Unlike in TRS it looks just as good in game as in the render!

[orange94shadow]

one word.........WOW! me wants!!!

[tezjones16]

What are you using to create that? Is it a specific program?

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1181.jpg

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1182.jpg

[tezjones16]

Very nice. Is it going to be released soon? I got just got 3ds max so that I can create engines too. I want to Create a SD70.

[mard]

Looks awsome cant wait to download:D

[RSderek]

looking great, well done!

regards
Derek

[trackman44]

So how soon will we be able to download this loco? Looking forward in using it on the Cajon Pass. Pretty soon i'll add my UP SW1500 to the list of 4 axle locos for everyone to enjoy. Keep up the good work.

trackman44:)

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

a few more screenshots. the locomotive is undergoing final testing.

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1183.jpg

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1184.jpg

http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/moonraker/screenshots/1185.jpg

[Driverman2008]

Very nice locomotive!:eek: I'm very amazed!:D Just one question, will there be a driver in the cab? I can't tell based on these pictures.

[therock]

Very nice locomotive!:eek: I'm very amazed!:D Just one question, will there be a driver in the cab? I can't tell based on these pictures.
From what he told me, probably not. It's really a very fine engine, I'm hoping he finalizes it soon :D

http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/fa9f06091231596a6978be07d8b40fe5.jpg

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

Very nice locomotive!:eek: I'm very amazed!:D Just one question, will there be a driver in the cab? I can't tell based on these pictures.

i think that i will leave out a drive simply becuase i dont want every locomotive in the train to have a driver. when there is no driver visible, as you said, its hard to even tell. but when there is a driver in every cab, it becomes noticable.

[BillA]

That looks awsome!

Bill

[therock]

And for those whom haven't seen it in the General Discussion forum-

http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/6d5df863e0524c21577e16c6b5e6cc39.jpg

http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/e98df21ad5edb6f96e807bc97676434b.jpg

SOU GP38-2's are on their way as well :cool:

[ILoveTrainz]

I can only say one thing.

WOOP!!!

[nikos1]

Southern serves the south
http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/6e969841af67b9d56d60149002b5433d.jpg
http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/22c4cdeed9cd12ae081bdcbaa3cc2283.jpg
excuse the quality, my graphics card doesnt do these units justice.

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

Not long now. i've been very busy working on the features.

This is a completely new locomotive, the only things that are not brand new are some sounds from the game SD40 for the cab and the couplings, which are already in the game.

Features include:

High detail level
Easily re-skinable
Accurate sounds including horn and engine sounds
Custom cab interior
Stuff i didnt think id do. lol

[trackman44]

Congratulations NorthfolkSouthern on a job well done! I haven't been doing much right now on my SW1500 ( i've been working on some other models so i have a wealth of objects to work with and define for export to KRS) but i'll get around to it. Anyways hope to download and play around with your loco soon. All the best.

trackman44:)

[bessemer]

Sorry...maybe I'm a little bit slow here haha. But I haven't seen in this thread or the other as to where these will be available. I would consider buying KRS for this kind of quality...

[RSderek]

Looks Great!

regards

Derek

[BN1970]

Ahh....hopefully these fine locos will breathe some life into RS....great work Guys!

[BillA]

Looks really great, keep the previews coming!

Bill

[PatPut99]

Absolutely stunning! I'm loving that unit. And the Southern one as well!

[KHR2141]

so when are these being released?

The simple answer... when there done. Would you like them released when their not done? It would be another Vista :P

[trackman44]

Any idea when this loco is going to be available?

trackman44:)

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

it will be available once i think it is performing well in the game. at the moment it is a matter of working out the physics.

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

check the file library

[greendude]

Why is your gp38 not showing up when i click on it?:confused:

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

i don't know. i need more information to help.

[greendude]

After I Install it I start the game and nothing shows up then i move the gp 38 files to the railsimulator us folder to sound , particles , etc. I start it up again and click on them and they still don't show up. Any idea as to why this is happening?They show up in the menu just not on the tracks.
Yes, I deleted the blueprints.dat file.

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

because they do not belong in the railsimulatorUS folder, they belong where they install to from the package. to use them you must activate them in the editor content panel.

[greendude]

what's that ? is it in the developer tools?

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

no its in the scenario editor in any version. i think its the blue cube looking thing with an arrow on it called 'object set filter', should activate a menu on the far right side with a pulldown in it containing all of the developer names in it. choose JCornell in that box and place a check in the box near EMD.

[greendude]

Ok , thanks for the help ill see if it works now:)

[Juan-k]

Awesome Model!!!

Thanks for sharing us this jewel!

Juan.

[livercup]

B-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l

[nwman]

Could we get a new picture of in game posted? All the others don't show up anymore. Thanks nwman.

[ightenhill]

is this available yet.. looks great

[GeorgeJacksonChurchward]

is this available yet.. looks great

File libary............................

Name: bnsf38.zip Size: 11,733,785 Date: 08-28-2008 Downloads: 567
KRS BNSF GP38-2. Model based on prototype ex-BN, ex-SLSF units in the late 2300 series. Includes full set of features including a cab interior and sounds for the EMD 16-645. By Justin Cornell.

GJC.

[batterymule7]

This is a great model. It's hands down my favorite engine in KRS. Think you could be persuaded to do an A,C &W R repaint?

[jasonjanise]

I have a question. I can load the GP-38 and place it on the tracks and I can even go inside the cab, but I can not control it. I guess what I mean to say is I can not get it to move. I can move the dynamic brake handle, push the bell button, pull the horn lever, but I can not get it to move. What did I or what am I doing wrong?

Jason

[jessiejames2]

Your not alone I can't use them ether? all the lever's won't move I gave up! the GP-38 is not the right scale anyways, the GP-9 is the right scale but again I can move it so you better off using the SD-40-2 that came with the game, at least it works:p

[rrroberttt]

You must set up the controls in the program to at least intermediate controls to use this model. It will not work with simple controls.

rrroberttt

[jasonjanise]

Where and how do you do that?

Jason

[jasonjanise]

Got it figured out. Man it is different with the intermediate controls.

Jason

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

Your not alone I can't use them ether? all the lever's won't move I gave up! the GP-38 is not the right scale anyways, the GP-9 is the right scale but again I can move it so you better off using the SD-40-2 that came with the game, at least it works:p

what do you mean its not the right scale? it is made close to scale as really matters using prototype dimensions. that sir, is insulting.

the controls were not scripted in the other control modes. maybe sometime i will add the simple controls but i figured if you are using simple mode you might as well not be using the cab controls to drive.

too much work and not enough pay!

[jasonjanise]

I could care less about the scale or how close it is. I think it is a great job that you did and I am just happy to have something other than the same ol' engines to drive around. Hell, if you are not happy with something, then my attitude is then go build it yourself. Do not knock someone elses work even more so when the guy does it on his own time and did not charge you a dime for it. If I could design these types of things, I would. Be that as it may, I can not, so I depend on the work that the talented guys who can do. I just need to figure out how to run the GP-9 now. I am assuming it uses the same intermediate controls? Is that correct.

Jason

[Hack]

the GP-38 is not the right scale anyways

Rubbish.

Justin is a fine modeler, which he's consistently proven time and time again in MSTS, Trainz, and now RS.

[kcjones]

Justin's is such an excellent model that I cibbed from the engine xml file to get mine to work. I wish I could get to his level of craftsmanship. It is somwhere to aim for. Dick C.

[Denis Johnston]

Working the containers
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6283/gp38dg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Its unfortunate how some people in this forum do not take the time to think of what they are saying before they post. This GP-38 is by far one of the best additions to the very small U.S locomotive rosters. After one year of KRS, there are only a few new engines. I for one am very thankfull for any new content. Keep em coming.

[spec5sx]

Its unfortunate how some people in this forum do not take the time to think of what they are saying before they post. This GP-38 is by far one of the best additions to the very small U.S locomotive rosters. After one year of KRS, there are only a few new engines. I for one am very thankfull for any new content. Keep em coming.

I agree with this statement whole heartedly. Content like this loco has kept this sim alive in the US. We are drowning in a sea of English row houses over here.:D Any new content is good content.

Keep up the good work.

[jessiejames2]

yea I guess your right I got it working now, its a nice GP-38 Looks good lots of detail. I couldn't get the number boards to match but that's ok

[Denis Johnston]

WOW Is that a sharp looking loco! Very nice indeed. Any more re-skins planned?

[Christoff]

Is this Wisconsin Central available somewhere? I would love to have it.

Pete from Marshfield

[jessiejames2]

I wanted to see what a UP looked on this GP-38

[spec5sx]

I'm glad you decided not to give up on RS just yet. Your reskins are always outstanding. I like the GP in Union Pacific livery.I'll take one to-go.:D and since I'm developing a UP route that would be a welcome asset. A GP in SP livery would also be nice.

Regards

[jessiejames2]

Thanks am working on SP now got some fixing to do on this one;)

[jessiejames2]

Major problem? How do I get SP white numbers?:confused:

[nikos1]

looking great!
For the numbers you have to repaint each digit, in the texture folder there are files named digit 1, 2 etc.

[jessiejames2]

I had to patch it because I couldn't change the font am Done!:D works good!

[spec5sx]

He-he! :D I love the add-hoc appearence. Looks like something they would do in the real world. Let me know when I can download those.

[jessiejames2]

you can Download now here http://s1.zetaboards.com/DigiRails_Forums/index/

[spec5sx]

Nabbed em'. Thanks buddy for all your hard work. Hope to see more in the future.:)

[NorfolkSouthern_37]

I had to patch it because I couldn't change the font

why not? the font should be in the alpha channel.

[jessiejames2]

I have the Font but making pos+neg alpha channels to match those you have would be more work then Fun? so I think it looks good the way it is. one other problem I found is if I put more that two custom Gp38's in the GP38 folder only two show up? like the Default SD40 you can have as many as you want as long as you rename the bin file so how do I have more then two GP38's I see you named the BNSF-1 in the Bin file I don't think it matters what you name it right?

[therock]

I have the Font but making pos+neg alpha channels to match those you have would be more work then Fun?
If you use photoshop you can use this nifty thing called an Action. Record what you do once. Save it. Repeat on different texture. Saves plenty of time. :)

[jessiejames2]

problem I found is if I put more than two custom Gp38's in the GP38 folder only two show up? like the Default SD40 you can have as many as you want as long as you rename the bin file. and why does the numbers only default to the main BNSF-1 that means I can't have custom numbers? I can't figure this out some one must know how to make this GP38 run with Custom color Numbers I want to run red numbers for UP and white numbers for SP?

[greendude]

my connection keeps timing out . :mad:can you post a link for people that cant get onto your site (like fileqube or you send it)

[jessiejames2]

blank

[marr5]

I am having trouble with the link too. nice work on the locomotives by the way, think i should start on my route again.

[jessiejames2]

I put new links up they should work good? DRGW 75% done

[therock]

Some spots on those textures look eerily familiar..

http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/1d96f072ff7cbf0a13be77203226fbee.jpg

Especially the shadow under the dynamo blister.

[Hack]

Judging by the dirt smudges and the dynamic brake shadow, it would appear that it's your work. Makes me wonder where the other repaints originated...

[jessiejames2]

Think what ever you want? I don't do this for you or for any one but my self you don't like it to bad! then Don't look at it:mad: just for saying that am taking all my work off line I keep my stuff for my self. you thank Hack for it!

[greendude]

Judging by the dirt smudges and the dynamic brake shadow, it would appear that it's your work. Makes me wonder where the other repaints originated...

Hack, just because Jessie's repaint looks like the rock's trainz skin doesn't mean it IS the rock's skin. Besides jessie could have based it off of the rock's.......
They may look similar but that doesn't mean they're the same , and jessie just because someone said you plagiarized someone elses work doesn't mean the whole community thinks you did. Alot of people have been accused of it but still kept on making and releasing objects and reskins.
As for me i think your work is amazing..........so keep up the good work.

[CD705]

That's unfair to Hack he did nothing wrong, just pointing out what everyone can see above.

You shouldn't use other peoples work and pass it off as your own, give credit where credit due and ask for permission to use someone elses textures.

Regards, Jack

[greendude]

yeah but didn't he accuse jessie of plagiarism ?
What if jessie did make that skin from scratch?

[CD705]

yeah but didn't he accuse jessie of plagiarism ?
What if jessie did make that skin from scratch?

Well I compared the pictures before they were removed and I believe the textures to be the same, whilst it is possible for two people to make near identicle skins it is highly unlikely and as Hack said

Judging by the dirt smudges and the dynamic brake shadow, it would appear that it's your work.

Not an accusation, but an observation.

[greendude]

Oh, in that case i apologize for accusing hack of accusing jessie

[CD705]

But then again they could be seperate works and just look similer, in which case Jessie should ignore anyone saying anything to the contrary.

[CD705]

Here are the two images in question

http://uslw.net/content/screenshots/1d96f072ff7cbf0a13be77203226fbee.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7929/rioo2008112900322177lb2.jpg

[jessiejames2]

I hope your Happy Now! hope you Guys Find some one to make better Cars and Loco's Cause am Done! you know am the only one that made this game better! Thanks a lot, Have Fun playing your KRS:(

[therock]

I'm not trying to get you out of the game, These skins you've done for KRS so far have really brought it along. I was just saying that it had multiple similar features to the repaint I made. It just came as a surprise to me as you never sent me anything asking if you could do this. It wouldn't have been this big of a deal if there was a simple email.

[jessiejames2]

Am Been re-sking for years now! I allways give Credit for their Textures in read me file, I don't think am going to share my stuff any more:( you got me Depressed me about even doing any more stuff:(
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr105/jessiejames2_2008/RailSimEditor2008-11-2914-31-46-59.jpg

[nikos1]

Jessie, it is common courtesy to ask a creator if you can use their textures, i got in trouble for this very early, and i have found it is always a good idea to get permission before releasing. They spent alot of time creating the textures, the least you can do is send them a simple email, most creators will not have a problem with it. You have definitely contributed alot to RailSim but that doesnt give you the right to use other peoples textures without permission. I think that a simple apology here would be more appropriate, instead of threatening to stop sharing your reskins. Just use it as a lesson for the future, that if you want to use someones textures ask them for permission before you release the reskin.

[therock]

Like I said, I'm not trying to get you out of reskinning, It'd just be nice if you could send an email for permission first.

*edit* ok Nikos said it better and at the same time.

[bs rr co]

I hope your Happy Now! hope you Guys Find some one to make better Cars and Loco's Cause am Done! you know am the only one that made this game better! Thanks a lot, Have Fun playing your KRS:(


Jessie your skins are great keep it up, but there are 4 or 5 people on this forum, myself included that have put alot of hard work into making the game better by providing "NEW" objects & locos. So you are not the only one that improved KRS.

michael gilmore

[jessiejames2]

Thanks! Yea am still making stuff:D
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr105/jessiejames2_2008/RailSimEditor2008-11-2923-20-28--1.jpg

[bs rr co]

That looks great