I Get Angry, But This...................

[maddog_2020]

Me and my mom have had a few disagreements from time to time, but this is kinda overboard. I laughed at the wording of this article, but not because of what happened.
I'd be kinda embarrased to tell my other jailmates why I was sitting in there with them.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23957811-5012895,00.html

[Jim Prower]

More than likely still frozen, thus would make an effective blunt instrument.

The sad part: 46 and still living at home.

[maddog_2020]

Well yeah, that too.

[kilchisriver]

At least we now have a clue as to why at 46 he is still living at home. Or is that was living at home! -Mike, Tillamook:D

[jtr1962]

The sad part: 46 and still living at home.
Actually that's not overly uncommon in places with very high housing costs like NYC. Where I live is about 50% Asian. In general unless they need to relocate for work, Asians will remain with their parents until they get married, whatever their ages. As a result, plenty of 30-somethings here still living with mom and dad, even a fair number people older than that. My mom knows a brother and sister in their 50s who remained at home (both parents are gone now). I'm 45 and still living at home with my mother (dad passed away in 2006). Housing costs here are at least $2500 a month in any halfway decent neighborhood. Typically available jobs pay perhaps $25K to $35K. In other words, your take-home pay won't even cover the rent, let alone food. You either need to get married, get roommates (usually they're worse than your parents), stay with your parents, or get really lucky bagging a $100K a year job. And no, I don't anticipate ever hitting my mom over the head with a frozen sausage. Since we're Italian, frozen meatballs make much more sense. :D

[chucksc]

Joe -

Are you sure - 25 to 35k in NYC??????

IIRC Welfare in NYC pays more than that.....

Your sanitation workers make over a 100 - DOL stats say the median income in NYC is slightly over a 100k....

possibly you put the decimal point in the wrong place? :)

[rdamurphy]

Wow, here's a thought: You can live in Wyoming for under a $1000 a month total living costs.

Robert

[Gixxer86g]

Wow,I must be on the wrong side of the bridge.

[jtr1962]

Joe -

Are you sure - 25 to 35k in NYC??????

IIRC Welfare in NYC pays more than that.....

Your sanitation workers make over a 100 - DOL stats say the median income in NYC is slightly over a 100k....

possibly you put the decimal point in the wrong place? :)
Chuck,

That's median household income, usually from two or more workers, and bringing up that median are a lot of finance jobs which are fast disappearing (look at how many jobs Bear-Stearns eliminated for example). I'm going by the kinds of readily available jobs I see in the paper. Most of those pay between $25K and $35K. Rookie cops were starting at $25K until the courts awarded them higher pay. Sanitation workers (http://www.nyc.gov/html/dsny/html/jobs/jobs.shtml) start at $31,200 and go to $67,141 after 5.5 years. Those who make >100K put in lots of overtime. I forgot to mention, I've had severe carpal tunnel syndrome since my late 20s thanks in part to some pretty physical jobs I had to do. Right now I do part-time electronics engineering on my own. I do OK per hour ($30 to $60 depending upon what I do), but am limited by my disabilities to working perhaps 10 hours per week on average (not that I actually get that much anyway). Not enough to live on my own by any stretch of the imagination. Now that my mom's getting older and dad's gone she needs someone to do the heavier stuff around here anyway. Better I do that than she uses money she really doesn't have to pay a stranger. Probably a good arrangement for both of us actually.

Welfare IIRC pays something like $500 an month to a single person, and now you need to be enrolled in some kind of full-time welfare to work program to receive it. Even minimum wage pays more than that.

[jtr1962]

Wow, here's a thought: You can live in Wyoming for under a $1000 a month total living costs.

I knew someone would chime in with a comment about relocating so here's the deal:

I don't drive (can't due to my CTS), get sick after about 15 minutes in an automobile regardless making it useless to me as a mode of transport, and can't stand living in the country. I'd be as out of place there as you would in NYC. Putting aside all that, I'm also sure those figures don't include the cost of auto ownership which easily tacks on another $500 a month between gas, repairs, insurance, tickets, car payments. More probably as the price of gas continues to rise.

Oh, and what kinds of employment exist in Wyoming? I'd guess probably mostly minimum wage physical farm work which I couldn't do anyway.

What's so bad about staying with your folks anyway? That used to be pretty common but nowadays in the US it seems there's a stigma attached to it. Yet it's still common in many parts of the world. Maybe if more people did that, the price of housing in places like NYC would be less (simple supply and demand).

[rdamurphy]

There aren't any farms in Wyoming. Mostly transportation and oil and gas related jobs. And, believe it or not, yes, both Cheyenne and Casper, and a lot of other cities have public transportation! Heck, you can get around Cheyenne just by walking! I know people who live in Denver who don't own cars, and use public transportation exclusively. Denver's a bit more expensive than Wyoming, or even Montana, and believe it or not, Wyoming actually has telephones, computers and *gasp* the internet!

I don't recall a time when living with your parents until you were in your 40's was ever "common" in the US...

I've been to NYC several times, and never felt "out of place." As a matter of fact, I've driven a tractor-trailer in all 5 boroughs. I know New Yorkers like to pretend that living in NYC somehow is "special" but it really isn't that much different that 30 or 40 other major cities. San Fransisco probably has a better mass transit system than NYC and there are other cities with subways. Like Tokyo!

But, hey, if you want to live at home, that's fine, none of my business: Just don't go after your Mom with your sausage!

Robert

[jtr1962]

I've been to NYC several times, and never felt "out of place." As a matter of fact, I've driven a tractor-trailer in all 5 boroughs. I know New Yorkers like to pretend that living in NYC somehow is "special" but it really isn't that much different that 30 or 40 other major cities. San Fransisco probably has a better mass transit system than NYC and there are other cities with subways. Like Tokyo!

Yeah, but would you actually consider living here? I'm sure I could tolerate a few weeks in Wyoming, or any place else for that matter, but I wouldn't want to live there. Now Tokyo or Beijing or Shanghai or perhaps even Chicago might be places I could actually get along just fine.

If you've driven a rig here then my respect for you just went up a few notches. I've bike messengered in Manhattan so I know firsthand the state of anarchy on the local roads. It's gotten a lot worse since then. I still cycle however.


But, hey, if you want to live at home, that's fine, none of my business: Just don't go after your Mom with your sausage!

Ouch! Am I detecting a dual meaning here? Not a chance of that at all. Older women aren't my cup of tea, let alone those related to me. :eek: I mostly go after females young enough to be my daughter. :D

[rdamurphy]

I had a delivery once on 63rd Street and Madison Avenue. Did one one time on 5th Avenue down the street from the Empire State building. Did Astoria one time, that was fun, had to drive a couple miles out of the way just to find a place I could make a right hand turn with a trailer. Been to Hunt's Point a few times, and picked up in Brooklyn, down on the south end. I've also been to the South Side of Chicago, Atlanta, downtown San Fransisco (Have to really watch the hills, to avoid being high-centered, been to Los Angeles, all over CA, been over every major pass in the country, and now, I have the best job on the planet.

I sit in an air conditioned office and tell truck drivers where to go!

Robert

[jtr1962]

Did Astoria one time, that was fun, had to drive a couple miles out of the way just to find a place I could make a right hand turn with a trailer.

Now that's typical Queens where you have to make a bunch of turns blocks out of your way on account of either a one way street or perhaps a missed turn. Add to that the wider turning radius of a tractor trailer, and you have an genuine adventure! Sitting in an air-conditioned office sounds like a lot better deal to me!

BTW, I used to live in Astoria until I moved here in 1978. Northern Blvd. is one of the major truck routes there. It was a block from our old apartment. When I was a kid I used to stand on the corner and watch the traffic/traffic lights quite a bit. Interesting mix of trucks. Besides the usual box trailers, you had container rigs, cement mixers, the occasional crane going to a construction job in Manhattan.

[rdamurphy]

What I don't get is what possesses someone to drive down a street with a tractor trailer parked in the middle of it, knowing they can't get around, and ask the driver to move so they can get down the street...

Hmmm, I guess that explains a lot...

[trainrover]

The sad part: 46 and still living at home.
Waddya mean? Would any prospect of practicing the age-old custom of extended families make ya too queezy? What exactly must be wrong with your --uhm-- constitution?

Hmmmm, it kinda smells o' dose doity thoities in here....must be snuff, must be . . .