Ever felt down?

[EMD E8A]

Has anyone else here felt down to the point of being depressed? I'm at that point right now, and any support I can get would be very appreciated.

[Andy J]

What's got you feeling down? :)

[jtr1962]

I've felt down to the point of actually attempting suicide when I was 20. Obviously and thankfully I wasn't successful. It's normal to just feel down on some days, or even most days if your life isn't going particularly well. Sometimes just talking about what bothers you eases the burden.

What got me out of my severe depression was exercise. When I was at rock bottom I was cycling 100 to 200 miles a week and also walking quite a bit. It didn't necessarily improve the things in my life which bothered me (point of fact most of that was totally out of my control anyway) but it did keep me from thinking about them all the time. As a bonus, exercise releases endorphins which improve mood. There are also obvious health benefits. I still cycle over 1000 miles a year, and I'm trying to get back up to 3000 to 4000 like I used to do until a few years ago. Exercise helps in more ways than you think.

Almost everyone has been where you are at one time or another. I still go through dark episodes now and then. I'm sure you'll hear lots of stories of how people coped. Sometimes things are darkest right before the dawn, as cliche as that sounds. For me personally my life never made a dramatic improvement, but in retrospect things got better as I learned to cope. Maybe I was just expecting too much from life at the time.

[Shonner]

As long as you stay away from drugs for depression, your mind will be clear and focused so you can get past this and go on with your life with new things. Drugs will only freeze you in time with those feelings and you will never get past them. They will haunt you always.

[muskokaandtahoe]

If you think you might be depressed, see your Doctor. Depression is a medical condition, not a personality problem or a bunch of bad hair days.

Only a qualified Dr. knows whether you are depressed or not and what steps will be right for you. Might be medicine alone. Might be talk alone. Usually takes both.

Do not try and tough things out on your own: Depression is a liar and w/o somebody else there for you with some truth all you will "hear" are the lies.

See your Dr. ASAP.

[Hawk]

I'd have to side with Shonner here as opposed to Dave (no disrespect Dave). Drugs are not the answer. The drug company's would like you to think that but that's like disconnecting the 'engine trouble' light in your car when it comes on instead of trying to figure out why it came on.
Talking to someone about what's eating at you is generally a big help. Talking to God is another choice.
The main thing is; don't let it take over. Depression is a temporary thing and can easily be overcome if you want it.

[Erick_Cantu]

Generally, yes, I think it's a combination of my job and a few other factors. I'm basically fed up with everything at this point.

[Gixxer86g]

I struggle with depression every day.You're not alone.

[ragtimer]

You should be a middle aged white man living in this country...that will depress you.(I am not joking here).I mean that and I do sympathise.Take what you can from things like TrainSim.At least that is your own world where you can have things as you want;subject that is to its shortcomings!

[rgarber]

*puts up The Doctor Is In sign*

Anybody living in today's world is bound to be perplexed by the conditions we find ourselves amongst. There is terror, wars, corruption, loss of morality, loss of decency, fear of sickness, etc. How can anybody not be depressed? So what is one to do?

Let's first open to the book of Luke and take comfort these things are to happen...

25"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken."

and...

"34"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. "

Take great hope that you can alleviate the depression if you are joyful. How can one be joyful?

First, read your Bible. Works for me.
Second, Pray daily. Works for me.

Here's a verse about prayer:

4 Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! 5 Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. 6Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Third, turn off the stupid tv set. Don't watch the news. You'll feel much better not having somebody tell you what's wrong with everything, constantly.*

And finally, the ultimate solution... *drum roll*

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%203:16-17;&version=31;#fen-NIV-26127a)] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

Depression and despairing is a lack of hope. It's a lack of faith in things to come. I don't dispute the above helpful advice but ultimately depression is a spiritual issue as well. The soul wants a connection to its maker.

Give it a try. It's free. The most work you'll have to do is turning pages and a squat or two.

Enjoy!

Oh, here's my bill...

*turns over the signt to The Doctor Is Out Playing Trains*

[Gixxer86g]

As far as the drugs/no drugs arguement goes,it depends on the person.Your depression could be caused by a chemical imbalance.It could be caused by situations in your life and your environment.It could be a combination of both.I can't see how a chemical imbalance could be treated without drugs.And of course,if you are suffering due to the other reasons,counseling is the way to go.But only a doctor can tell you that.The problem is ,making sure your doctor can be trusted in doing what is in your best interest as opposed to his drug rep's interests.But there is another path that you've got to stay away from,self medication.I partied my arse off when I was your age.Illegal drugs can make you forget your depression,but that comes with a heavy price.Trust me,I know.They don't take the depression away,they just mask it.And when depression rears its ugly head again,it's worse than you can imagine.Trust in your loved ones.Find a good doctor.If you are religious,trust in your clergy.Just don't let the problem fester.

[jay611]

I grew up being told I was worthless, that I would never amount to anything, that I should just sit in a corner my whole life and let other people make decisions for me. Until I began high school, that's exactly what I did. It got to me so bad that I considered suicide several times. I ended up in counseling, taking some prescription drug (i forget what it was) and I slowly through a combination of those two, and support from the few friends I have, I managed to get back on to feet. I still have my off days but being along listening to good music normally cures me for the time being.

In 2005 (about the same time I got out of counseling when I was told I had improved since I first arrived) Bon Jovi released this song on their "Have a Nice Day" album. When ever I start to feel like im going to lose it, I just put this on. No matter what had been said to or about me, it no longer matters when I hear this tune.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNYQwZDcf1E


This used to be me. A Ghost in the night wandering the streets looking for a purpose.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/BCR2014/l_98dc34e1f236fdfcf33e692c54e81a75.jpg


This is me now. Proud of who I am and what I have accomplished.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/BCR2014/l_179f9aaf430e8e78c1d761759f0e3e-1.jpg

[EMD E8A]

Thanks all of you for your concern and advice. What's got me down is that the only friendship I've had has terminated. She abandoned me. :( Now I have no one else.

I saw my doctor 2 years ago to see if I have depression. I don't have that, but what I do have is something like "borderline" depression. I'm also on medication that was prescribed to me for something else--but it is used for depression. I asked my doctor if I could go off it twice already, but he doesn't think I should.

I'm lost now...

[muskokaandtahoe]

I'd have to side with Shonner here as opposed to Dave (no disrespect Dave). Drugs are not the answer. The drug company's would like you to think that but that's like disconnecting the 'engine trouble' light in your car when it comes on instead of trying to figure out why it came on.
Talking to someone about what's eating at you is generally a big help. Talking to God is another choice.
The main thing is; don't let it take over. Depression is a temporary thing and can easily be overcome if you want it.

Depression is a medical condition. It normally requires medicine. It is not just being bummed out or going thru a rough patch.

Medical conditions are not easilly overcome just because you want it to go away. Taking a chance on just letting time heal things is risky. If you are just bummed out... sure, time heals. But if you are depressed, time does not usually work. Talking to someone you trust is helpful but seldom the solution. See a Doctor. Only qualified Dr. can do an initial diagnosis of depression.

People who are personally familiar w/ it, be it their own experience or that of a loved one, can make a pretty good guess about someone else but it's only a guess. FWIW, I can make very good guesses about depression: I spent much of last winter as an observer on a suicide watch. I will be taking anti-depressent medicine for the rest of my life. That medicine is the only reason I'm alive today. I do know something about this.

Many depressed people who do not seek medical help self medicate w/ excessive alcohol and/or addictive drugs. That only masks their problem and brings up all sorts of other issues.

Having said all of that, coming back to the original poster and his question: Nobody here can answer your question. You have to find help where you are. There may be people in your community to talk to who can help you. Maybe you're just going thru a rough patch and time will heal. Maybe you are depressed and need medical help. We don't know. Start by going back to your Doctor.

[bs rr co]

"Thanks all of you for your concern and advice. What's got me down is that the only friendship I've had has terminated. She abandoned me. Now I have no one else"

You are not abandoned, you will always have friends here.
As for the women, you did mention the word she. There will be another one along in a little while.
Also for the job thing it may not be the best but at least youre working. My $10.50 an hour job officially got outsourced to the phillipines last week.

[EMD E8A]

Also for the job thing it may not be the best but at least youre working. My $10.50 an hour job officially got outsourced to the phillipines last week.

Sorry to hear that. I don't have a job right now, but I am looking.

[bs rr co]

Just keep looking one will show up. That is what i am doing, admittedly it probibly will not pay what you want, or be exactally what you want to do, but it will pay the bills & put some food on the table until you can get the one that pays what you want & are happy with.

Myself i am considering McD's just to keep everything going until something else comes along.

[Vince]

Has anyone else here felt down to the point of being depressed? I'm at that point right now, and any support I can get would be very appreciated.

This is a medical condidtion my friend, just like the flu or the measels.

For them you seek medical help.

Sometimes problems are overwhelming. It happens to all of us at one time or another. Please seek professional help for you and your familys sake.

However, if you are building a route the only cure for THAT is excessive amounts of Jack Daniels or, in a pinch, Jim Beam while you build the route. :p

[jtr1962]

Thanks all of you for your concern and advice. What's got me down is that the only friendship I've had has terminated. She abandoned me. :( Now I have no one else.

While that isn't exactly what happened to me, it was somewhat similar. We were really too young to continue things, and also probably too afraid of admitting our feelings for each other. The end result however was the same-she was out of my life, and of course I felt awful. Adding to that was the usual stress of being in college, preparing to be an adult.

Although we can't substitute for a professional here, we can listen and offer advice based on our own life experiences. To me it definitely sounds like you have situational depression, same as I did at the time. It seems you've got a few more things in your favor than I did. You have the people here to talk to. I had literally nobody. If I mentioned any of my feelings to my parents, they likely would have told me to suck it up and be a man. In fact, I never mentioned my attempted suicide to my parents until about 15 years after the fact. I had no money to seek professional help, nor do I think such help would have been successful in my case. I'm not easily convinced by anyone that I should be happy when my life is a steaming pile of dung, nor would I have taken antidepressants. I react horribly to all drugs. Being depressed at least made me feel alive as opposed to being numbed into a stupor. I wasn't and I'm not religious so I didn't have that, either. Just never been one to blindly accept what someone else says unless I can confirm it myself. Faith is a concept totally alien to me, probably one my type of brain is incapable of processing. I basically had to deal with things on my own, as best as I knew how.

All I can say is find some little sliver of your life worth hanging onto, and build things from there. Things will get better, even if only by small degrees. You will eventually find your place in this world. With any luck you'll meet someone else although that's not guaranteed. After her I was pretty much done with the opposite sex. I never met anyone who even came close so I just stopped bothering. Hopefully you'll have better luck. Sure, you'll never forget her as she was probably your first true love. I know I still think of her every day, dream of her at night quite often, hope one day we'll run into each other again. But maybe you'll find someone else you'll love as much or more. Even if not, time will ease the pain, and eventually you'll mostly remember just the good times.

Yes, you're lost now but you'll have the rest of your life to sort this out. There will be good times and bad times. In fact, the bad times make you appreciate the good more just as the dark makes you appreciate the light. There are no quick fixes here, no happy pill, even if society would have you think otherwise. Just find something to keep you going, and things will get better. Just don't wallow in your depression, feeling sorry for yourself. I wasted literally years of my life doing that. I had nobody to guide me through it so I didn't know any better.

[EMD E8A]

Sure, you'll never forget her as she was probably your first true love.

She was just a friend. Nothing more. :p She was the only friend I had, that's why it's so hard on me. But thank you for your story.

I really do appreciate all of the effort you guys made. I know none of you are professionals, but I didn't know where else to turn to. I do see a therapist every week, but it's only that day out the week that I have someone to turn to.

I'm sorry if I made this forum into the Dr. Phil show, or some such, but I just have so much on my chest right now. Thanks all of you.

[Shonner]

I partied my arse off when I was your age.Illegal drugs can make you forget your depression,but that comes with a heavy price.Trust me,I know.They don't take the depression away,they just mask it.And when depression rears its ugly head again,it's worse than you can imagine.

And illegal drugs cause the chemical imbalance to begin with.

[Shonner]

This is a medical condidtion my friend, just like the flu or the measels.

Everyone gets depressed. Those that get through it don't use medicine. Those that can't get through it, medicate themselves. But they don't get better, only worse. Because the medicine causes more chemical imbalances.

[Erick_Cantu]

My miracle depression cure is Dave Mustaine. Whether it's listening to So Far, So Good, So What! at full blast or playing his riffs, it always helps.

I still need to find a better job though, I'm sick of playing the appeasement game. I'm 23. I shouldn't be working a stressful job, I should be out enjoying things.

[Hawk]

One of the problems with legal anti-depressants is that they seem to have the opposite effect on younger folks, causing more depression, suicidal tendencies, etc.

I still need to find a better job though, I'm sick of playing the appeasement game. I'm 23. I shouldn't be working a stressful job, I should be out enjoying things.
I don't blame you Erik. A stressful job doesn't do anybody any good. Everyone should at least enjoy their job or else they're in the wrong line of employment for themselves.

I was a commercial/industrial electrician for about 25 years and for the first 20 I really did enjoy the work. Then it seems that concept of quality went out the window and, as BB King said, "the thrill is gone", so I quit.

[rdamurphy]

Did you ever think of just doing something for yourself? Buying yourself something, going out to a movie you want to see, or just going somewhere you've always wanted to go?

Sometimes you just have to take time to stop and mow the roses!

Robert

[Hawk]

Mow the roses, or mow the thorns? :D

[Shonner]

I was a commercial/industrial electrician for about 25 years and for the first 20 I really did enjoy the work. Then it seems that concept of quality went out the window and, as BB King said, "the thrill is gone", so I quit.

Was it the illegals invading your profession and sub-par quality becoming the norm?

[Hawk]

Sub-par quality. The illegals pretty much stayed in the residential area while I was still there. That may be different now (I've been out of it for over a year), but even then - commercial/industrial is a lot more in depth than residential.

[Shonner]

Did you ever think of just doing something for yourself? Buying yourself something, going out to a movie you want to see, or just going somewhere you've always wanted to go?

People coming out of depression, or the zone, have to work hard to come up with things to do for fun because the day will end and the fun will then end, too in their mind. So they have to start over again the next day to find something fun. This is for the moment stuff they are seeking when they should instead be planning for long term fun over a lifetime. Planning a month ahead of time helps a great deal because it may take that long to learn up on a new hobby. And the more one gets into a hobby, the more there is about the hobby. Getting a new job that pays for the hobby is awesome. Medication prevents one from keeping a stable job. It numbs the brain so that even reflex actions are a chore to do.

I don't know of any model railroad people that are on prozac that amount to any kind of quality productivity with the hobby.

[Shonner]

Sub-par quality. The illegals pretty much stayed in the residential area while I was still there. That may be different now (I've been out of it for over a year), but even then - commercial/industrial is a lot more in depth than residential.

Parts from China may not have helped much. Everything becomes disposable.

[Hawk]

While I did see a steady decline in the quality of material, the worst was the steady decline in the quality concisenesses overall.

[rdamurphy]

Years ago, we used to super-detail Athearn locos, cut them up, turn them into other locos, regear substandard drives, scratchbuild cars and locos, and some people even built entire layouts from scratch.

Now, that level of detail comes in the box, there's nothing to do but put it on the rails and turn up the sound. It's not only expensive, but boring. I wish I had more time to "scratchbuild" in MSTS... It is nice, though, to be able to put something I made in the file library and "give" it away!

Hey, y'know, GMAX and the MSTS game pack is still available...

Robert

[agentatascadero]

Has anyone else here felt down to the point of being depressed? I'm at that point right now, and any support I can get would be very appreciated.

E8, Please realize your "answers" will NOT be found here. As a retired Psychiatric nurse, I am appalled at some of the "advice" offered here. Depression (true depression, not being bummed out, sad, or lonesome) is a medical condition. It is NOT an attitude or self image problem that one can "snap out of". Medication sometimes is the only answer, other times therapy works well, sometimes it is the "tincture of time" that works. For once, I find myself in agreement with Mr Murphy, in that getting out, becoming involved does help with the re-energizing and staying active part. AA

[tonka]

If I have asked myself 'Which is better, being dead, or not being born at all?', what does that mean?

If I have asked myself, in regards to someone who is making my life hell 'Which is better, killing him, or killing myself?', what does that mean?

I'm not a medico, but one thing's for certain, I do hate my life; even my dad said to me when I was a child "I wish your mother had an abortion, so then I'd have more money for myself to spend on."

Needless to say, I wasn't very impressed...

I honestly do hate my life, sometimes, and I do forget to "stop and smell the roses" as some people say. I'm being perfectly honest here, but I do regard myself as 'crap' (hard to explain) and the one thing I hate about some weaklings is when they cry after breaking a finger nail, so-to-speak (I'm talking about people I know pesronally), or (I'm not trying to be blasphemous here) when they cry about their life story to me, you'd think they were JC, carrying the Sin of the world and afterwards they'd say to me "Oh, I fell better now" and yet, I'd be sitting there, feeling like garbage.

I do get very anxious and suffer from, if you will, subjective panic attacks; what I mean is, on the outside I look calm and solid as a rock, except for some slight sweat, but on the inside, I'm in absolute turmoil, my chest would feel like it's caving and metophorically speaking, I feel like filling up a toilet boil, like as if the whole world is coming to an end, but noone picks this up from me; I must be a good actor, or something...

I almost have a distinterest in life and sometimes during my studies (I'm studying mech eng, if anyone cares...); I absolutely hate having a social life, yet I hate myself for not having one (I must be retarded, or something...); some of my friends have commented that I eat for comfort (what's wrong with having a triple-choc ice-cream after a 2 hr exam?); if I'm anticipating something, I'm always thinking it's gonna fall apart like a total abortion then it's gonna be my fault; I have lashed out at my dad (can you blame me?); I've been told I dwell on things and to be perfectly honest, I do get 'flashbacks', if you will, where I'm thinking 'Man, why the hell did I do that for?' or 'WTH was wrong there?'

I'm an absolutely boring person with boring hobbies, which include drawing, building model kits, etc, etc, etc...all involving sitting down.

I remember one evening after a long day of studying, I was just so depressed that I almost didn't cross a road properly. It was a four-lane road, I got to the middle and there was a car changing lanes towards me; I stood there thinking 'If I get knocked over, then so be it; I've had enough!'...the car swerved on the last second and I thought 'Well, that's one person in this world who cares about me!'...I've almost been cursing that day ever since.

Ugh...


Cheers!

P.S. My family life is $#!+

[Shonner]

If I have asked myself 'Which is better, being dead, or not being born at all?', what does that mean?

Depends on which path would make the world a better place. Personally, I don't waste time on such trivial stuff. You're here now, so do some good.


If I have asked myself, in regards to someone who is making my life hell 'Which is better, killing him, or killing myself?', what does that mean?

Just right them off and find people that have integrity and good character. Don't let bad people from your past get to you. Start a life that you want. Live for you. Don't be a victim.


I'm not a medico, but one thing's for certain, I do hate my life; even my dad said to me when I was a child "I wish your mother had an abortion, so then I'd have more money for myself to spend on."

Just walk away from that person and don't try to reason or make nice with him. He will just drag you down more if you continue being around him. No father should ever say that, period. Never. Biologically, he's your dad. But is no father.


I honestly do hate my life, sometimes, and I do forget to "stop and smell the roses" as some people say. I'm being perfectly honest here, but I do regard myself as 'crap' (hard to explain) and the one thing I hate about some weaklings is when they cry after breaking a finger nail, so-to-speak (I'm talking about people I know pesronally), or (I'm not trying to be blasphemous here) when they cry about their life story to me, you'd think they were JC, carrying the Sin of the world and afterwards they'd say to me "Oh, I fell better now" and yet, I'd be sitting there, feeling like garbage.

Don't worry about what other people are doing or thinking about. Don't let other people drag you into their hells and dramas. Help them if they want help. Otherwise, move on. You will soon get the hang of recognizing people that have your dad's personality and avoid them once spotted. You will have more time to take care of yourself and be happier more often and in turn be able to focus on the more important things in life to make the world better. You will see pluses and minuses in life. Associate with people that are a plus in your life. And stay away from people that are a minus in your life. The object is to always be positive (find lots of pluses in your life) and not ever go negative.


I do get very anxious and suffer from, if you will, subjective panic attacks; what I mean is, on the outside I look calm and solid as a rock, except for some slight sweat, but on the inside, I'm in absolute turmoil, my chest would feel like it's caving and metophorically speaking, I feel like filling up a toilet boil, like as if the whole world is coming to an end, but noone picks this up from me; I must be a good actor, or something...

Sounds like you are just keeping your head above water. The good part is that you are aware of it and would like to improve that situation.


I almost have a distinterest in life and sometimes during my studies (I'm studying mech eng, if anyone cares...); I absolutely hate having a social life, yet I hate myself for not having one (I must be retarded, or something...); some of my friends have commented that I eat for comfort (what's wrong with having a triple-choc ice-cream after a 2 hr exam?); if I'm anticipating something, I'm always thinking it's gonna fall apart like a total abortion then it's gonna be my fault; I have lashed out at my dad (can you blame me?); I've been told I dwell on things and to be perfectly honest, I do get 'flashbacks', if you will, where I'm thinking 'Man, why the hell did I do that for?' or 'WTH was wrong there?'

We all make mistakes in life. But balance it with doing great things in life. And then keep on doing great things in life from then on.


I'm an absolutely boring person with boring hobbies, which include drawing, building model kits, etc, etc, etc...all involving sitting down.

Whoever told you it is boring is either unimaginative or is jealous of your skills. If they see your stuff and still think that way, drop them like a hot potato. You don't need their negativity anymore. Also, if you like doing your hobby, who cares what other people think. Tell them to get a hobby and then come back to you when they find one. Go to a convention. Every year there is one somewhere. Find people that share your hobby and see what they've done. There are hundreds of ways to do a hobby and you might only be doing yours a couple of ways. You will be dying to try out others ways that you've learned.


I remember one evening after a long day of studying, I was just so depressed that I almost didn't cross a road properly. It was a four-lane road, I got to the middle and there was a car changing lanes towards me; I stood there thinking 'If I get knocked over, then so be it; I've had enough!'...the car swerved on the last second and I thought 'Well, that's one person in this world who cares about me!'...I've almost been cursing that day ever since.

You'll have a chance to thank them one day if you see them again. They were helping you in a way.

[rdamurphy]

E8, Please realize your "answers" will NOT be found here. As a retired Psychiatric nurse, I am appalled at some of the "advice" offered here. Depression (true depression, not being bummed out, sad, or lonesome) is a medical condition. It is NOT an attitude or self image problem that one can "snap out of". Medication sometimes is the only answer, other times therapy works well, sometimes it is the "tincture of time" that works. For once, I find myself in agreement with Mr Murphy, in that getting out, becoming involved does help with the re-energizing and staying active part. AA

And I agree with you, there's nothing wrong with going to see a Family Physician, asking his advice, and seeing what he thinks. After all, you're not obligated to take his advice, and there could very well be a medical issue causing it. Chronic pain and Diabetes for instance can cause clinical depression, as a matter of fact, low blood sugars can cause a lot of problems in the brain. So can hormones.

It doesn't mean you're crazy, if that were the case, the mental institutions would be full of pregnant women!

Robert

[Gixxer86g]

If I'm not mistaken,more than 40% of the population suffers from some form of mental illness.

[Hawk]

If I'm not mistaken,more than 40% of the population suffers from some form of mental illness.
Yep! It's called individualism. The FDA just hasn't got around to giving it a technical name and acronym yet. :rolleyes:

[Shonner]

When you can finally see and believe that 2 + 2 = 5, only then will you be cured.

[Shonner]

If I'm not mistaken,more than 40% of the population suffers from some form of mental illness.

Great news for the prozac industry. Bottle up, everyone. Chew up and be happy.

[jtr1962]

When you can finally see and believe that 2 + 2 = 5, only then will you be cured.
Straight out of 1984.

Another of my favorite quotes from that very prophetic work:

"We shall turn you into gas and pour you into the stratosphere. Nothing will remain of you, not a name in a register, not a memory in a living brain. You will be annihilated in the past as well as in the future. You will never have existed."

[rdamurphy]

My therapist told me that the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what I start

So far today, I have finished two bags of chips and a chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

Hey, nothing like a little humour to cheer one up!

Robert

[trainrover]

My therapist
Evidently, you're being conned.