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Traindude
08-10-2008, 11:46 PM
I have always liked American and British trains both equally. Some partial knowledge of UK rail equipment has sort of made me the "UK Rail Tech" liaison for Kerry McCoy's Thomas the Tank Engine rolling stock.

However, I have seen one oversight on Kuju's part in the original MSTS. Kuju assumes that ONLY steam engines had vacuum brakes (according to their techdocs), when I know for a fact that many diesels and electrics in the UK were also vacuum-brake equipped. Even though UKTS' Class 08 shunter is seemingly vac-brake equipped, I tested it and the brakes seem to not function.

I want to write to MS hoping that MSTS2 corrects this oversight, explaining the subject in a way that assumes they have no prior knowledge of the subject, but I am still trying to familiarize myself with UK standards, and I know that diesels and electrics have something in place of the steam loco's steam-ejectors. I have my own theories, such as a centrifugal compressor to create a jet of air to expel the air from the brake pipes in the same manner as a steam ejector, but I need a rail enthusiast from across the pond to give me THE REAL STORY. Thanks in advance!

ragtimer
08-12-2008, 11:25 AM
It is called an exhauster.Instead of a large ejector the driver had an "exhauster speed up" button or lever on the brake system.

Traindude
08-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Thanks! I will let the MSTS2 team know, I always wondered that myself!

Driverman2008
08-12-2008, 08:07 PM
I sure hope their other high detailed European route is a British route. This way we can get some vacuum-braked locomotives and rolling stock again in the default roster.

Portergraphic
08-12-2008, 09:44 PM
We are on here quite a bit, so no need to let us know ;-)
We are able to simulate various types of braking, so I think we can support whatever is type of braking is available.

I can't think of any possible exceptions, but I am sure there are some.

ozdriver
08-13-2008, 12:32 AM
In Australia ALL engines fitter with a dynamic brake also have a devise call a regenerative interlock
This prevents the simultaneous operation of the dynamic brake and the engine brake; it does however allow about 5 lbs of air to the brake cylinders to just place the brake blocks on the wheels
Once the speed get below about 6 mph (or the driver places the brake handle in the emergency position) the interlock releases and normal operation of the engine brakes can occur
This could never be simulated in MSTS1 so I hope for more engine parts control in MSTS2,in the braking and physics side of things