Italian Alps Scenic Route

[OTTODAD]

I am happy to report that after Chris (basherz) has supplied a clue where to look to find a solution to it's one remaining problem, the fully working route and all it needs is now available and those who have not been able to make it work yet can download it from here:

www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-route.zip
www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-assets.zip
www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-rolling-stock.zip

After downloading the above into a temporary folder and un-zipping them, check their READMEs and install them in any order !

Have FUN, O t t o.

[chrisreb]

Have installed all the bits of the Alpine route. However the final bit is to overwrite the Routes.xml file which reverts the in game choices to the default 3 plus the alpine route. I had taken a backup so have reverted to all my existing routes. Is there some way to get the Alpine route ADDED to my routes rather than replacing them?

[boleyd]

Took 6 tries to get assets loaded. Kept getting corrupted zip files. All ok now. Thanks for "packaging" all the goodies in one place. Hope this sets a standard.

[OTTODAD]

Have installed all the bits of the Alpine route. However the final bit is to overwrite the Routes.xml file which reverts the in game choices to the default 3 plus the alpine route. I had taken a backup so have reverted to all my existing routes. Is there some way to get the Alpine route ADDED to my routes rather than replacing them?

Hi Chris !

If the included RouteSetup.exe has been run then it will not overwrite the existing Routes.xml and simply adds the ALPS paragraph if it does not exist already.

The separate fixed ROUTES.XML download is not required after my ZIPS have been installed and it is it which wiped out your existing one !:mad:

Have made them aware of that before and suggested that they too use Mike Simpson's routes add-on installer rather than the RSPackager !

Having restored your backed-up Routes.xml, simply install the alps-route.zip again !

O t t o

[livercup]

Hi, Otto!
I downloaded and ran the Alps yesterday and it worked fine for me, and my son played on it for hours. Today, after installing MK2, it crashed on route the loading page in free roam and scenarios. All other add-on routes work fine. I'm stumped.:confused:
Any ideas?
Tom

[rrroberttt]

Hi, Otto!
I downloaded and ran the Alps yesterday and it worked fine for me, and my son played on it for hours. Today, after installing MK2, it crashed on route the loading page in free roam and scenarios. All other add-on routes work fine. I'm stumped.:confused:
Any ideas?
Tom



The same here. I ran Rail Simulator in Windowed mode so that I Could see what error it was giving. Its listed below.

UNKNOWN VERSION OF SERIALIZED BINARY FILE

FILE:../API\core/cFxException.h

LINE:113

rrroberttt

[chrisreb]

After installing Patch MK2 ran the new installer twice but alps still will not show although it shows on a list when choosing to create a new route entirely.

Has the MK2 patch broken something as it appears from the issues above?

[lucacanna]

http://www.speedyshare.com/511380523.html
try this...;)

[OTTODAD]

After installing Patch MK2 ran the new installer twice but alps still will not show although it shows on a list when choosing to create a new route entirely.

Has the MK2 patch broken something as it appears from the issues above?

The MARK-2 patch is causing all sorts of problems, especially for the ALPS route.

But your problem has been caused by a corrupt addition of an ALPS paragraph to the Routes.xml before installing my downloads.

ZIP your Routes.xml file and attach it to an e-mail to me, using this link: http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/oaw_000011.htm
and I shall fix it for you by return ! ;)

But the route will only run in RS MARK-1 and hope that you have got a BACK-UP of a recent Rail Simulator folder !

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

Try this...;) http://www.speedyshare.com/511380523.html

Hi Luca and welcome to this forum ! ;)

This download it not curing the problems caused by the MARK-2 Update, all downloaders of my 3 ALPS Zips not reporting any problems prior to installing the MARK-2 Update, other than having an already corrupt entry of the ALPS paragraph in their Routes.xml !

Take care, O t t o.

[lucacanna]

Ciao Otto,
I couldn't load the route, i tryed this fix and now it works...
Thanks for the wellcome Mr Senior:D

[OTTODAD]

Ciao Otto,
I couldn't load the route, i tried this fix and now it works...
Thanks for the welcome Mr Senior:D

Which folder does this Tracks.bin belong into, Luca ?

I can not see one in any of the Pere folders ?

CIAO., O t t o

[dick8299]

The Tracks.bin folder goes here:

C:\Program Files\Rail Simulator\Content\Routes\8c8e02d6-05c5-4433-bda7-da8d0eb7364d\Networks

However, I tried the new Tracks.bin folder and it did not resolve the non loading issue with MK2.

I ran Log Mate when attempting to load Alps and this is the last entry before the crash if anyone knows what to do:

[Content 5:39:05 PM] Trace C:\Dev\RailSim\Code\Libs\Heracles\Engine\Draw\DxCo mmon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect watercubemap.fx

[dick8299]

I am attaching the complete Log Mate file that was generated in attempting to load Alps in hope that it makes sense to someone who can identify a fix for this issue.

[OTTODAD]

The Tracks.bin folder goes here:
C:\Program Files\Rail Simulator\Content\Routes\8c8e02d6-05c5-4433-bda7-da8d0eb7364d\Networks

Yes, I figured were the Tracks.bin file belongs and like you found that putting it into the route's Networks folder, overwriting the existing one, made no difference.

Reverted back to MARK-1 and had no problems !

O t t o

[boleyd]

My issue with Alps, which was very nice under MK1, now does not show a (9)key route map. If I zoom out the program crashes. This is consistent on scenarios and Free-roam. Loaded the three zips from Otto's site(tks).

So far limited playing of other routes ok.

[OTTODAD]

Hi Dick !

If you have a BACK-UP of the MARK-1 Rail Simulator folder then create a RS MINI route with it for the ALPS, the HOW-TO I have explained here:

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/showpost.php?p=1420694&postcount=25

Then re-install my 3 downloads into it and it should be working like before ! ;)

Take care, O t t o.

[dick8299]

I am curious Dick near Pittsburgh. Your post reads as if you are actually able to load Alps with the MK2 installed, but then it crashes while being used.

Is this true?

I am still unable to get the route to load at all under MK2.

[OTTODAD]

I am curious Dick near Pittsburgh. Your post reads as if you are actually able to load Alps with the MK2 installed, but then it crashes while being used.

Is this true? I am still unable to get the route to load at all under MK2.

Yes, using both the MARK-2 RailSim.exe and RailSimEditor.exe I can run the ALPS "Merci Per Cimalago" scenario but none of it's other scenarios which crash RS to the Desktop !

Creating a RS MARK-1 MINI copy for it, all of the ALPS will run as before after re-installing my 3 downloads into it ! ;)

O t t o

[dick8299]

Otto:

I had a complete pre MK2 back up of Rail Simulator on my external Hard Drive and so I installed your three Alps downloads there and the route loads and runs off of my external Hard Drive copy.

I was also able to load and run ALPS "Merci Per Cimalago" using my main Rail Simulator install with the MK2 on my "C" drive.

I then was able to create a new "Free Roam" scenario off of the "Merci Per Cimalago" scenario and that loaded and ran fine also.

So I guess the good news is that we have not lost the excellent route, just a couple of the scenarios, which we should be able to recreate, or just go ahead and make new scenarios as we choose.

For Dick near Pittsburgh, I did not do an extensive run of the Alps route, but I was able to access the "9" 2-D map with no crash. Have you replaced the Routes.bin folder as mentioned in earlier posts?

[OTTODAD]

Otto. I had a complete pre MK2 back up of Rail Simulator on my external Hard Drive and so I installed your three Alps downloads there and the route loads and runs off of my external Hard Drive copy.

I was also able to load and run ALPS "Merci Per Cimalago" using my main Rail Simulator install with the MK2 on my "C" drive.

I then was able to create a new "Free Roam" scenario off of the "Merci Per Cimalago" scenario and that loaded and ran fine also.

Thanks for confirming that, Dick, which is exactly what my ALPS does in both MARK-1 and MARK-2 copies.

Creating new scenarios in the Mark-2 copy should be alright, them not having any problems with modified by the update signal functions !

For Dick near Pittsburgh, I did not do an extensive run of the Alps route, but I was able to access the "9" 2-D map with no crash. Have you replaced the Routes.bin folder as mentioned in earlier posts?

The "Routes.bin" folder ? Do you mean the Routes.xml, which apparently caused a problem in the V.1.01 download but not in my amended with a corrected version download ?

Using the creator's Routes.XML fix download and copying it over the existing one is likely to wipe out any add-on routes listings in the existing one and the amended ALPS paragraph needs to copied from the fix into the existing Routes.xml, making sure that all traces of the incorrect ALPS paragraph are deleted first before pasting the fixed one into it !

B.t.w., I too have no problems using the ALPS #9 Map in both RS Update versions, albeit only one scenario is working in the MARK-2 copy.

O t t o

[dick8299]

Sorry, I meant to write Tracks.bin - not Routes.bin

[chrisreb]

Otto

Thanks for the ffer to look at the Routes.xml file. I have zipped up and e mailed.

I am restoring a pre Mk2 version of the programme and assume I will need to apply your 3 patches to it and then the revised Routes.xml file.

Thanks again

[OTTODAD]

I am restoring a pre Mk2 version of the programme and assume I will need to apply your 3 patches to it and then the revised Routes.xml file.

Put the brakes on Chris ! ;)

After I have received your zipped Routes.xml, no sign of it yet in my INBOX and made sure that it is fit for consumption, I shall return it.

This is my e-mail address: http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/attachment.php?attachmentid=5907&stc=1&d=1218913885

After you have copied it into your Rail Simulator\Content folder you can the re-install my 3 downloads of the ALPS.

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

Sorry, I meant to write Tracks.bin - not Routes.bin

I installed that larger Tracks.bin after Luca supplied a link for it and it made no difference.

But then my version of the ALPS with all it needs had no problems in the first place ! ;)

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Put the brakes on Chris ! ;)

After I have received your zipped Routes.xml, no sign of it yet in my INBOX and made sure that it is fit for consumption, I shall return it.

This is my e-mail address: http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/attachment.php?attachmentid=5907&stc=1&d=1218913885

After you have copied it into your Rail Simulator\Content folder you can the re-install my 3 downloads of the ALPS.

O t t o

Otto

Looks like it went ok but sent again just in case.

Will do nothing re Alps until I get the Routes file back - no worries I can wait until convenient to you.

Regards

[OTTODAD]

Looks like it went ok but sent again just in case.

Still no sign of it in my INBOX.

Is there a "Black Hole" somewhere on the Internet ? ;)

Just send a plain text message using this e-mail link:
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/oaw_000011.htm
or click on the OTTODAD at the top of my message and use the "Send E-Mail" option I can reply to.

You attaching the Routes.xml ZIP to your reply to mine should reach my INBOX alright !

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Still no sign of it in my INBOX.

Is there a "Black Hole" somewhere on the Internet ? ;)

Just send a plain text message using this e-mail link:
http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/oaw_000011.htm
or click on the OTTODAD at the top of my message and use the "Send E-Mail" option I can reply to.

You attaching the Routes.xml ZIP to your reply to mine should reach my INBOX alright !

O t t o

Done it now

[OTTODAD]

Done it now

Still no sign of it ! :mad:

Attach your zipped Routes.xml to your next post.

The Uploader can handle up to 97Kb ones !

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Still no sign of it ! :mad:

Attach your zipped Routes.xml to your next post.

The Uploader can handle up to 97Kb ones !

O t t o



Attached now - I hope

[OTTODAD]

Attached now - I hope

Got it ! :D

Is this the Routes.xml from the Pre-MARK-2 BACK-UP ?

There is nothing wrong with this Routes.xml and does not contain an ALPS paragraph.

Where did all these additional language options come from, I do not have in my Routes.xml files ?

Is this file from an updated with MARK-2 Rail Simulator\Content folder ?

If that is the case then no version of the ALPS route will run in it !

O t t o

[tonyman2005]

Can you open the route with the developer edition OTTO? if you can go in and just place 1 object and Save the route it will update the route to the Mk2 patch

[Basherz]

Sorry Otto, you'll have to do it manually now if you have Mk2 installed. It should have been installed prior to Mk2, and should be automatically updated during the Mk2 install.

[chrisreb]

Got it ! :D

Is this the Routes.xml from the Pre-MARK-2 BACK-UP ?

There is nothing wrong with this Routes.xml and does not contain an ALPS paragraph.

Where did all these additional language options come from, I do not have in my Routes.xml files ?

Is this file from an updated with MARK-2 Rail Simulator\Content folder ?

If that is the case then no version of the ALPS route will run in it !

O t t o

Otto

This is a Mark 1 - if no Alps then I can go ahead and use your Alps downloads onto this version by the look of it. No idea what all the languages are have not done anything other than standard installs.

Will give it a go later today on a Mark 1 base.

Thanks for looking at it.

[OTTODAD]

This is a Mark 1 - if no Alps then I can go ahead and use your Alps downloads onto this version by the look of it.

There not being a previous installed ALPS listed in your Routes.xml then installing my 3 downloads of it in any order will give you a fully playable ALPS route, nothing else being required by it ! :D

Have FUN !!!!

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

Sorry Otto, you'll have to do it manually now if you have Mk2 installed. It should have been installed prior to Mk2, and should be automatically updated during the Mk2 install.

Hi Chris !

The ALPS was installed into my installed from DVD MAIN RS, later updated with Mark-1.

Tony (tonyman2005) suggestion did not work, trying it in with both RailSim*.exe in all the route's scenarios and can not load a single one in EDIT mode, the "Merci Per Cimalago" being the exception !

Perhaps being able to identify which signals have been updated and either replacing or removing them would be one solution ?

Perhaps deleting updated signals or replacing them would work ? But which are affected ?

O t t o

[boleyd]

Using the key-9 map with Alps (xp/sp3/mk2) crashes the RS program(photo). No routes every appear and the crash occurs when zooming out to see where I am. This is with a fresh Alps install (Otto's) after deleting everything I could find that related to Alps. Looks like we are into the typical confusion where it works on some systems and not others. Awaiting Mk3>>>

It is a good effort that worked under MK1 but I have other routes to use in the meantime.

[trackman44]

Maybe the answers are in the new release of the devtools pack from railsimulator.com. Hope this helps.

trackman44:)

[OTTODAD]

Maybe the answers are in the new release of the devtools pack from railsimulator.com. Hope this helps.

What new release when and where ? ;)

O t t o

[trackman44]

When you log in to railsimulator.com you will notice there is a new devtools to download at the right side of the screen (scroll down a bit and you'll see it). It is called "Installer (39Mb) Aug 08" under the RSDevTools tag. This is on the main page, probably in the downloads section too.Take care Otto.

trackman44:)

[trackman44]

Guess what, I believe that I found what's wrong with the ALPS route. I used Mike Simpson's latest RS_tools to check the route and lo and behold, the checker showed me that there was a ton of missing bin files, textures and shapes. I have attached a zip file containing text of the missing stuff.

trackman44:)

[OTTODAD]

When you log in to railsimulator.com you will notice there is a new devtools to download at the right side of the screen (scroll down a bit and you'll see it). It is called "Installer (39Mb) Aug 08" under the RSDevTools tag. This is on the main page, probably in the downloads section too.

Thanks !

No mention of it being available anywhere.

In any case, what is the purpose of it, having been already installed by the MARK-2 Update ?

It also makes no difference to how RS runs and has nothing to do with the #9 Map display !

Take care, O t t o.

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/attachment.php?attachmentid=5928&stc=1&d=1218990288

[OTTODAD]

Guess what, I believe that I found what's wrong with the ALPS route. I used Mike Simpson's latest RS_tools to check the route and lo and behold, the checker showed me that there was a ton of missing bin files, textures and shapes. I have attached a zip file containing text of the missing stuff.

History ! ;)

Did you download and install all these ???

www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-route.zip
www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-assets.zip
www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-rolling-stock.zip

But the ALPS route will not work in the MARK-2 Update ! :mad:

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Otto

Installed to MK1 and got one of the scenarios to work like everyone else. Can edit scenario that works and set up as a base to create others.

Will have to hope fixes can be found as the scenery in the one I tried is incredible.

The Alps and the Borders routes are the pick of the user created ones so far.

[OTTODAD]

Hi Chris !

If you have installed all my 3 ALPS downloads then all scenarios can be played in the MARK-1 version of RS !

O t t o

[trackman44]

Sorry Otto for not installing the three zip files properly. I did it right this time but still, RS_tools from Mike Simpson listed 4 missing files. Also it stated that two folders in the ice/icepak folder could not be read properly because of the german double s character. It is the OlepaS_nr1 and OlepaS_nr2 folders. (sorry, I don't know how to write the character in my computer). So what I did was to change the character to two s in all the files and the contents of the files. These folders and they're contents were referenced by this file in the scenery folder of the route:- +000396+004964.bin ( changed the naming of the file names in this file too). I'll attach a zip file of the files that i changed if your interested. After making my changes and running the alps route thru freeroam scenario i get this error message "Unknown version of serialized binary file
FILE: ../API\core/cFxException.h
LINE:113"

And this is the missing file (not 4 files just one):-
C:\Program Files\Rail Simulator\Assets\Developer\Addon\atnet\scenery\veg etation\at_ulivo_01.bin
Take care Otto. Hope you'll be able to post the missing file\files.

trackman44:)

[OTTODAD]

"Unknown version of serialized binary file FILE: ../API\core/cFxException.h LINE:113"

You get this message if you run the ALPS in the updated with MARK-2 Rail Simulator folder.

This morning testing my ALPS-OTTO Freeroam Only version in the MARK-2 RS Rail Simulator folder, all of it works alright, using the Class 166 DMUs only in it's various services locations ! ;)

And this is the missing file.

and a few more add-on assets missing do not affect the running of the ALPS, which has been reported before !

O t t o

[seaboardairline]

ALPS-OTTO Freeroam Only[/b] version in the MARK-2 RS Rail Simulator folder, all of it works alright, using the Class 166 DMUs only in it's various services locations ! ;)
O t t o

Otto, I have not installed MK2 yet. I don't want to lose your ALPS-OTTO Freeroam version or the standard ALPS, (the best route in RS, except I wish it had less tunnels.) Let us know hot to retain these after MK2.
Thanks, Arthur

[OTTODAD]

Hi Arthur !

You can do what I do and have two copies of RS, the well tried and all routes functioning MARK-1 version somewhere else on your hard drive and then update the installed from DVD RS with the MARK-2 update, the ALPS-OTTO runs in alright.

However do not see many advantages from installing the MARK-2 update, not being concerned with non functioning dynamic brakes and signaling perhaps not working as it should, being a FREEROAMER ! ;)

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Hi Chris !

If you have installed all my 3 ALPS downloads then all scenarios can be played in the MARK-1 version of RS !

O t t o

Have got all but first scenario working. No missing rolling stock but scenario will not load.

One odd thing on another scenario is that some platforms show as wireframes only.

[lucacanna]

Ciao Otto...
today will be uploaded the new version working with mk2.
Stay tuned;) and check www.railsimulator.it
:D

[OTTODAD]

Thanks, Luca !

Shall download it later this afternoon !

Could you please post a direct link to it's download page ?

CIAO, O t t o.

[lucacanna]

sure..
you'll find it here...
http://www.railsimulator.it/file.asp?cat=scenari
:)
of course it's not there yet...
What you see is the Beta-Beta-Beta version of another route (Moncenisio) that Claudio Mussa (the author of italian stations and tunnels) is making.

[ee16csvt]

I have downloaded the three Alps files and am’ looking forward to a trip out over the route.

I’m off to works on lates and was hoping to install the Alps route when I get home later.

I have mk 2 upgrade installed and most my RS routes which worked previous to mk 2 (those I’ve had the time to check that is) are working ok!

I just wanted to make sure before the install of “Alps” if there is anything I should do to ensure a good installation. Reading thru’ this thread it would appear MK 2 has caused havoc!

Cheers!
PB

[OTTODAD]

I just wanted to make sure before the install of “Alps” if there is anything I should do to ensure a good installation. Reading thru’ this thread it would appear MK 2 has caused havoc!

The ALPS runs fine in my WIN-XP RS MARK-2 version, providing that all my 3 downloads have been installed, using their individual RouteSetup.exe files, there is no CD/DVD drive emulator running and that either the MARK-2 RailSimEditor.exe is being used to load RS, not requiring it's DVD in the drive, or the MARK-2 RailSim.exe with the RS DVD in it's drive.

Have not yet installed it's latest update, which if installed over the existing version may no longer cause these problems. More on that later !

Have FUN !

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

Grazie, Luca !

Still got my old Italian dictionary, hoping to visit Italy once more, having been in Tirano starting a BERNINA Express journey years ago.

CIAO, O t t o.

[chrisreb]

sure..
you'll find it here...
http://www.railsimulator.it/file.asp?cat=scenari
:)
of course it's not there yet...
What you see is the Beta-Beta-Beta version of another route (Moncenisio) that Claudio Mussa (the author of italian stations and tunnels) is making.

Buongiorno

Looking forward to new version as the route looks very very good - well done and thanks.

Visiting Garda next month so your route makes me feel in holiday mood

[msdejesus]

Hi, first of all, thanks for sharing a wonderful route.

My question is: have you encountered missing catenary posts in some parts of the route?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I downloaded everything mentioned on page 1.

Cheers,

Manuel

[OTTODAD]

My question is: have you encountered missing catenary posts in some parts of the route?

Yes, there are some missing at the start of the North-Eastern end of the route and think that Pedro or Marco are going to do something about that in future, apart from enhancing it with more custom made objects ! :D

B.t.w., the update is ready for download !

O t t o

[msdejesus]

Grazie mille!
Riguardi dalla Spagna.

Ciao,

Manuel,

[dick8299]

I downloaded and installed the New Alps Route "Ferrovia Delle Alpi v1.0"

At my first attempt to run the route, I was concerned because the Route did not show in the list of Routes.

However, I then opened up the Routes.xml file, and saw that there is not a Display name set for the English language. I added the display name and deleted three blank lines above the Route (not sure if the line deletion was necessary or not) and resaved Routes.xml

I then restarted Rail Simulator and the new route was selectable and loaded and ran. There is only one "Free Roam" scenario at this time.

Lets hope that what ever the problems were with the first Alps version do not show up in this version. It is an excellent route, although I still would like to see an equivalent effort from a route maker for a US route.

[OTTODAD]

I downloaded and installed the New Alps Route "Ferrovia Delle Alpi v1.0"

At my first attempt to run the route, I was concerned because the Route did not show in the list of Routes.

However, I then opened up the Routes.xml file, and saw that there is not a Display name set for the English language. I added the display name and deleted three blank lines above the Route (not sure if the line deletion was necessary or not) and resaved Routes.xml

I then restarted Rail Simulator and the new route was selectable and loaded and ran. There is only one "Free Roam" scenario at this time.

Thanks, you beat me to it and can confirm that this update now runs without problems no matter which version of the MARK update it has been installed into and what else is running, including CD/DVD drive emulators ! ;)

The included Assets F.D.A.rar, containing 27 separate installs of *.rpk & *.zip files can be ignored if my alps-assets.zip download has been installed !

Has these still missing, but does not seem to affect loading it's only scenario !

O t t o

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/attachment.php?attachmentid=5991&stc=1&d=1219169018

[lucacanna]

hey guys...i can't believe:D
problems...again!
I see is not the old known bug and Dick was able to fix that.
OTTO is right...if you already installed the "asset setup" made by TMB you just have to install the path and new template (with one of my favourite locos:D)
We decided not to include scenarios to reduce possibility to get errors.
We'll release scenarios in next days(i think i'm able to complete the first one until tomorrow)
You'll find it here http://www.railsimulator.it/file.asp?cat=activity
I'm leavenig for a week in a couple if days.
If you experience problems or you see imperfections (like missing cartenary parts) take note and write it here;)
Ciao from Milan!:)

[chrisreb]

Tried to install the new version and no Alps scenario works now.

Therefore uninstalled using Package Manager to try again but when trying a reinstall it says still installed!!

Is there any way to clear it out to try a re-install?

Had the previous version working under Mk2 for my own scenarios.

Update

Managed to uninstall and re-install but this version will not work at all - what steps have I missed out as I uninstalled and re-installed all via Package Manager.

[OTTODAD]

Hi Chris !

This update installed a new "Content\Routes" folder, it's name ending in ..-61f2fca8ffef. DELETE it and then open the Routes.xml and look for a paragraph at the end of it which has this name in it: Ferrovia Della Alpi and delete it, starting with it's cRouteProperties line down to the next /cRouteProperties line and the Alps update will be history and your previous one should work again as before !
As I have said many times before, before installing anything BACK-UP what you are about to install into !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O t t o

[rrroberttt]

Thanks for the tip about giving the english section in the routes.xml file an english name. I had the same problem with the new version. That advice solved the problem.

rrroberttt

[chrisreb]

Thanks both to Otto and to the tip re the Routes XML file I can now play the Ferrovaria di Alpi in Mark 2 and even created a scenario which seems to work.

My only issue is to find out why one of the AI trains seems to have stalled in a tunnel with a clear track ahead.

At least it seems to be stable in that I can go in and out of the route without crashing the game.

[tdwolf]

I am knew to the XML Editor
on how to edit this route to run it

After i loaded route it did not show up

tried to edit with xml editor
and still no luck

I am probiblity doing something wrong

please help

[lucacanna]

http://www.railsimulator.it/file.asp?cat=activity
Install version ENG (english text)
enjoy my friends:p

[OTTODAD]

Enjoy my friends:p

I am trying to ! ;)

The Scenario libero works alright in MARK-2 but the R7612 per Tremonti reports Failed to load.

Have you used different add-on rolling stock which is not part of my alps-rolling-stock.zip download ?

The JPG you have included shows that you too see the same textures less white mountains I have reported and Tom Boswell can take care of with a bit of luck ? ;)

O t t o

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rsa/alps-luca-white-mountains.jpg (http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk)

[lucacanna]

I think you miss something(look at the "rotabili" RAR i have included)
I tryed to completely uninstall RS and reinstall it with just FDA route and my scenario.
Installed the rolling stock included in the package (Rotabili) and that's it..it worked.
I'm leaving now...see you next week.
HAve a nice week end guys!

[chrisreb]

I am knew to the XML Editor
on how to edit this route to run it

After i loaded route it did not show up

tried to edit with xml editor
and still no luck

I am probiblity doing something wrong

please help

I too had not tried it before - I used the RS_Tools programme which has an option to open and save xml files.

Take a backup copy first!!

Open using RS_Tools, then just add the text (copy from the Italian language option) between the > and the < and save.

That's all I did to get it to show on the options.

[chrisreb]

http://www.railsimulator.it/file.asp?cat=activity
Install version ENG (english text)
enjoy my friends:p

Have also tried

Again had to edit the Routes.xml as the install dropped the route from the menu

Scenario failed to load and it appears the following stock is missing

D:\program files\Rail Simulator\Assets\Kuju\RailSimulator\railvehicles\e lectric\br101\ice\engine\br101.bin is missing

Will have to look for this wherever it can be found

[chrisreb]

Having installed additional stick still seem to be missing

D:\program files\Rail Simulator\Assets\Kuju\RailSimulator\railvehicles\e lectric\br101\baden\engine\br101.bin is missing


Have searched the German Railroads site and cannot find a skin with this name yet.

[chrisreb]

Having installed additional stick still seem to be missing

D:\program files\Rail Simulator\Assets\Kuju\RailSimulator\railvehicles\e lectric\br101\baden\engine\br101.bin is missing


Have searched the German Railroads site and cannot find a skin with this name yet.

UPDATE

As I could not find this version I took a copy of the black one and named the folder Baden and the scenario loads!!

[OTTODAD]

This latest update of the ALPS is missing rolling stock they use in the new R7612 per Tremonti scenario, which is not part of my alps-rolling-stock.zip ! :mad:

It has also not done anything about the missing English Alps name in it's Routes.xml paragraph, the route still being invisible because of that ! :(

Also some of the included rolling stock *.rar archives expand into Italian language folders on drive C: and have to be re-directed into the installed from DVD Rail Simulator folder !

I wish they would stick to the Assets I have already made available and if using new ones add them to a Mike Simpson RS_Tools_TMB packaged and installable with his RouteSetup.exe download.

I am uploading the revised with the additional rolling stock alps-rolling-stock.zip to my web site as soon as I have posted this.

Give it about 1-1/2 hours and it should be ready for downloading it.

O t t o

[dick8299]

I corrected the missing stock issues and added the english language entry, and the new Scenario loaded and ran.

However, shortly into the run, I got an AI Collision message and the scenario ended.

[tdwolf]

Crisreb

tried what you said

still not working

Can you show screen print of what you did

i am at a loss i can not figure out why it is not working

thank you

[tdwolf]

Crisreb

tried what you said

still not working

Can you show screen print of what you did

i am at a loss i can not figure out why it is not working

thank you

Ps the Neatherland rail sim web site has the Baden db 101

[OTTODAD]

The complete rolling stock for the ALPS is here:
www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-rolling-stock.zip

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Crisreb

tried what you said

still not working

Can you show screen print of what you did

i am at a loss i can not figure out why it is not working

thank you

Ps the Neatherland rail sim web site has the Baden db 101




OK Assume you have the RS_Tools which can be downloaded from Rail Simulator

Back up your Routes.xml

Open Routes.xml with RS_Tools

You will have to scroll down to find the bit you want - below I show the lines around where you need to amend

Then just copy the text Ferrovia Delle Alpi from the Italian line and insert it between the >< on the 'English line (2 lines above) as shown below.

Save the file

That's all I did - have repeated it again and works

Was then able to create my own scenario


Best of luck

</UUID>

<DevSring d:type="cDeltaString">dedc2001-37b9-457c-a31b-61f2fca8ffef</DevString>
</cGUID>
</ID>
<DisplayName>
<Localisation-cUserLocalisedString>
<English d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</English>
<French d:type="cDeltaString"></French>
<Italian d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</Italian>
<German d:type="cDeltaString"></German>

[OTTODAD]

Open Routes.xml with RS_Tools

Most text editors can also be used to work with RS XML files. They appear to be just ordinary TEXT files with no special formatting, even good old NOTEPAD can deal with ! ;)

Just changed the order in which my RS routes show in the RS Routes Menu by simply shifting routes paragraphs to new positions in the Routes.xml using NOTEPAD.

O t t o

[dick8299]

I tried the new scenario again after flying to the point of AI collision and seeing nothing to cause a problem, but it crashed at the same point.

Next I will try to edit the problem AI to see if I can eliminate the issue.

[dick8299]

I must have missed something important along the way about editing scenarios, because when I edited the AI train PCpro by removing all of the stop at instructions and setting the destination, the scenario failed to load.

Any ideas how I should proceed with editing the scenario?

[OTTODAD]

I tried the new scenario again after flying to the point of AI collision and seeing nothing to cause a problem, but it crashed at the same point.

After I have started the new scenario and watching it running in the #9 Map, stopping at stations on the way, oncoming AI trains having priority, the crash occurs in the single-track Cimalago tunnel, the player train hitting the oncoming PC7 AI train.

I did not take note of any signals prior to entering the tunnel, the player train proceeding unhindered.

However did notice that all the signals show red at San Antonio, the player train waiting for 2 AI trains to clear the route ahead. The AI on the left of the player train then starts although it's signal shows red and after it has disappeared in the distance and starting the player train, it's red signal is also not stopping it !

Something not quite right with the signaling in the Cimalago tunnel and station area, the PC7 AI has to pass before entering the tunnel !

Does not really concern me being a FREEROAM simmer ! ;)

O t t o

[OTTODAD]

Any ideas how I should proceed with editing the scenario?

Have you downloaded and installed my updated for this version: www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-rolling-stock.zip ?

O t t o

[dick8299]

When I watch the 9 screen, the AI train PCPro has just exited the tunnel and is on the viaduct above the next station (Monteverde). (Reference my earlier picture which shows where PCPro is at the time of the crash)

I have installed your updated rolling stock.

What I am more curious about is why I can not edit the scenario in Rail Simulator without it failing to load? I could see where if I was screwing around in the .bin file, that I could cause a problem, but if I am making a valid edit inside the Rail Simulator application, it should accept it without an issue.

[chrisreb]

Crisreb

tried what you said

still not working

Can you show screen print of what you did

i am at a loss i can not figure out why it is not working

thank you

Ps the Neatherland rail sim web site has the Baden db 101




OK Assume you have the RS_Tools which can be downloaded from Rail Simulator

Back up your Routes.xml

Open Routes.xml with RS_Tools

You will have to scroll down to find the bit you want - below I show the lines around where you need to amend

Then just copy the text Ferrovia Delle Alpi from the Italian line and insert it between the >< on the 'English line (2 lines above) as shown below.

Save the file

That's all I did - have repeated it again and works

Was then able to create my own scenario


Best of luck

</UUID>

<DevSring d:type="cDeltaString">dedc2001-37b9-457c-a31b-61f2fca8ffef</DevString>
</cGUID>
</ID>
<DisplayName>
<Localisation-cUserLocalisedString>
<English d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</English>
<French d:type="cDeltaString"></French>
<Italian d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</Italian>
<German d:type="cDeltaString"></German>

[OTTODAD]

What I am more curious about is why I can not edit the scenario in Rail Simulator without it failing to load? I could see where if I was screwing around in the .bin file, that I could cause a problem, but if I am making a valid edit inside the Rail Simulator application, it should accept it without an issue.

Perhaps your "Valid" edit is not valid after all ? ;)

Lets go back to square one !

Delete the ALPS by clicking on it in the RS Routes Menu and then press Delete.

Download this: www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-mark-2.zip and install it using its RouteSetup.exe and all should be well.

I have no problems doing anything with it in my RS MARK-2 and you can test the R7612 scenario's player and AI trains running by opening it in EDIT mode.

At the bottom of the #9 Map screen you will see something which looks like a video control, which is just what it is.

Press the "Play" arrow and set a speed. I find x8 the most suitable. You can then watch the Player and AI trains running, similar to the PLAY mode in the MSTS Activity Editor.

The PCpro AI runs ahead of the player, which is supposed to stop wherever there is a station or siding, this "Play" mode seems to indicate.

I did not do that, only stopping at stations and the consequent timing of the player then conflicted with the PC7 AI it eventually crashed with ?

Stop this "Play" function by clicking on it's "Stop" button, set the speed back to x1 and click on the "Jump Back" double-arrows.

Not doing that will screw up the scenario the next time it is being played or edited.

Anyway, lets see how you get on after doing the above ! ;)
Before doing anything to RS it is always a good idea to BACK-UP the entire Rail Simulator folder !

Take care, O t t o.

[tdwolf]

Have changed route xml as was explained and i am still not able to see route in route directory in game

have supplied example of what i did

<DisplayName>
<Localisation-cUserLocalisedString>
<English d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</English>
<French d:type="cDeltaString"></French>
<Italian d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</Italian>

[OTTODAD]

Hi Thomas !

ZIP your Routes.xml and attach it to a post and I shall have a look at it !

O t t o

[chrisreb]

Have changed route xml as was explained and i am still not able to see route in route directory in game

have supplied example of what i did

<DisplayName>
<Localisation-cUserLocalisedString>
<English d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</English>
<French d:type="cDeltaString"></French>
<Italian d:type="cDeltaString">Ferrovia Delle Alpi</Italian>



Has anyone else any idea as this is what I did (twice) to get it to show?

Assume you were editing the Routes.xml and not any backup etc (probably a stupid question I know but cannot see why it would work for me and not you).

[chrisreb]

Hi Thomas !

ZIP your Routes.xml and attach it to a post and I shall have a look at it !

O t t o

Will be interested if you find anything as it all adds to our knowledge base.

Tried the new scenario a couple of times. First time got a derailment and second time could not get the doors to shut at one of the stations.

Seems to be a lot of switching tracks in this route - had always assumed continental trains tried to run on LH track but hey what do I know. I seem to have to watch for AI trains like a hawk as I have had at least one head on crash - messy.

Regards

[tdwolf]

sent email to you with route data

[tdwolf]

trying again

finally got zip to work

6115

[OTTODAD]

No problems here in the RS MARK-2 version, Thomas !

O t t o

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rsa/ferrovia.jpg (http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk)

[tdwolf]

here is my screen shot

otto

[OTTODAD]

Hi Thomas !

Apart from the routes shown in my screenshot there are no other routes listed in your Route.zip

Could you attach the zipped Routes.xml which displays all the routes your screenshot shows ?

O t t o

[tdwolf]

ok

[OTTODAD]

Hi Thomas !

Attached is the fix, the problem again having been caused by the RSPackager used by the ALPS installs, inserting a rogue paragraph into the Routes.xml ! :mad:

Below are all your playable routes, having rearranged their display order a bit. ;)

Have FUN !

O t t o

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rsa/routes-xml-fixed-a.jpg (http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk)

[tdwolf]

you are a god

thank you very much

everything works fine

PS what do you think of MSTS 2

Looks great from what i have seen on theere web site

[OTTODAD]

PS what do you think of MSTS 2. Looks great from what i have seen on their web site.

If their railways infrastructure looks and functions like the real one and the scenery is a good as that of MSFS-X then we are in for a real treat ! :D

O t t o

[lucacanna]

Hi guys...
just a quick message (found internet cafè).
I honestly never experienced an AI collision...
If it's so, it can depends on the signals bug:
When you load the scenario, you must see both signals red!!
You have to give the way to PC and Pc pro, and leave when your signal becomes green.Signal issue happens only with this route, "Ancona-Pescara" and "Moncenisio" works great.
There're no errors in the scenario.I'm sure about that 100%...
You don't have to change train properties to, otherwise the scenario "lose something"
Further to the rolling stock, i never written that OTTO package contained all the stocks needed.That's why i included the correct and complete rolling stock package.
i think i will be able to connect again late afternoon.;)
bye.

[OTTODAD]

I honestly never experienced an AI collision...
If it's so, it can depends on the signals bug:
When you load the scenario, you must see both signals red!!
You have to give the way to PC and Pc pro, and leave when your signal becomes green.

However the signals for the MARK-2 R7612 scenario player service stay at RED after the two AI trains have gone, but do not prevent the Player service from passing them.

The MARK-2 Routes.xml listing is missing the English name for the route and is invisible in the RS Routes menu.

Further to the rolling stock, i never written that OTTO package contained all the stocks needed.That's why i included the correct and complete rolling stock package.

Correct ! I said that I have updated my: www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs/alps-rolling-stock.zip with the new additions so that users of the MARK-2 ALPS do not have to figure out which one is missing in my previous download of it, or have to download all of them themselves, some from non-English web sites, installing into Italian language folders by default ! ;)

The MARK-2 Freeroam Player Service DB-BR101 loco is stuck on a switch and can not be driven. It needs to be moved back a bit in the Scenario Editor !

Take care, O t t o.

[lucacanna]

Hi Otto,
the red signal for R 7612 at the beginning should become green
exactly when PCpro is approaching Cascina Grassi.
Further to the missing entry in the XML, this is a new bug...not bad like previous one. (corrupted xml)

[OTTODAD]

The red signal for R 7612 at the beginning should become green exactly when PCpro is approaching Cascina Grassi.


Sorry, but it did not change to green not even after the PCpro had passed Monteverde !

Me not waiting long enough and running the R7612 past that RED probably caused me to get into the Cimalago tunnel too soon, colliding with the approaching PC7 AI train ?

O t t o

[lucacanna]

Ciao Otto...
I never tryed to pass the red:)
I guess so...
Scenario works fine for many users...someone made a video available on youtube.
Maybe can help you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW9yg--N-8U

[msdejesus]

That "someone" is me, and the light doesn't turn green for me either, unless I chenge the switches manually, using the 2-d map,

I hope this helps,
Cheers,

Manuel

[msdejesus]

An update: edited the scenario to add a waypoint for FC5: Luffone binario 1 (this way the kamikaze mK2 AI(intelligent?) driver won't run into us!

[OTTODAD]

An update: edited the scenario to add a waypoint for FC5: Luffone binario 1 (this way the kamikaze mK2 AI(intelligent?) driver won't run into us!

I have learned to check the #9 Map to see the player train's path and what is likely to get in it's way. When approaching single tracks and there is an AI coming towards it then wait until it has passed, assuming that it will divert onto the track next to the player train's ! ;)

So far, so good !

O t t o

[lucacanna]

Hey i'm back:p
I just played the whole scenario...no collisions...no waiting points needed.
Further To PC7 collision, it passes through Cimalago at 19.30.
You don't meet it in the tunnel but after Cimalago (if you're in time) or when you are in Cimalago (if you are late baout 3-4 minutes)
Of course it's supposed when a train is running on that single track, the other opposite one meets red signal:D
I'll check with Pedro signaling on that tunnel...
Further to the first red light (S.Antonio) it's normal that stays red until you change manual junctions...that's why i wrorte the message "don't forget to check......"

OTTO you talked about missing catenary somewhere...we'd like to fix that...
where exactly??;)

[OTTODAD]

OTTO you talked about missing catenary somewhere...we'd like to fix that...! Where exactly??;)

Not too many are missing, starting at LAT: 46.020 / LONG: 9.979 and driving WEST then they are back again at LAT: 46.017 / LONG: 9.978 !

If you got my complete with my multiple Freeroam player services and all other ALPS scenarios to date ALPS-OTTO-1, which now seems to run under MARK-2 as well as MARK-1, you will notice that I have placed a new tunnel portal at the North-East end of the tracks and aligned the terrain with them ! Not that many would like to start a player service there ! ;)

B.t.w., that AI which starts next to the player which has this red signal suddenly caused a "Failed to load" and had to remove it in the ALPS-OTTO-1. No great loss because once it is out of sight is not to be seen again ! :)

Had hundreds of ALPS route associated downloads from my web site, exceeding it's monthly bandwidth allowance, NETWEAVER did not charge me for ! Glad that we have a new month starting !

Good to see that you are back, Luca !

Take care, O t t o.

P.S.: Thought I had better check downloads from my web site on the first day of this new month and they have already used 21% of my monthly bandwidth quota ! Looks like I have to get my cheque / checkbook ready ! :(

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rsa/web-site-downloads.jpg (http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk)

[landnrr]

I installed your route and got error messages. I tried the links for Alps-assets and Alps-rolling stock and they did not work. Any suggestions?

Jay

[OTTODAD]

I installed your route and got error messages. I tried the links for Alps-assets and Alps-rolling stock and they did not work. Any suggestions?

Downloaded the route and assets from where ?

Try my download of it: www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs-downloads/italian-alps-route-1_1.zip

As it will overwrite the original version please first BACK-UP the Contents folder before installing my version with English names !!!

If you are still missing assets or rolling stock then send me a PM to get links for them.

O t t o

[landnrr]

Just tried the link you posted and it said that the Webpage cannot be found. I D/Led the route from your link at the bottom.

Jay

[OTTODAD]

Just tried the link you posted and it said that the Webpage cannot be found. I D/Led the route from your link at the bottom.

You are to quick ! ;)

Testing it I realized that I made a typo and corrected it while you were posting your message !

Send me a PM for the assets links !

O t t o

[landnrr]

Otto,

Check your e-Mail. Sent it instead of a PM.

Jay

[OTTODAD]

You have a PM !

B.t.w., the route is Pedro's.

O t t o

[johanno4]

Hi Otto

I have downloaded the above route from your website and must admit it is quite impressive. Unfortunately the assets and rolling stock are no longer available on your site leaving the route without station platforms, etc. Could you perhaps make the relevant downloads avialable again for a limited period? Kind regards, Johann

[OTTODAD]

Could you perhaps make the relevant downloads available again for a limited period?

Yes, this being a new month can afford the bandwidth these large downloads are hitting my web site with. ;)

www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/rs-alps

O t t o

[johanno4]

Thanks a lot, Otto. I am now thoroughly enjoying the Alps route and scenarios.