Sean Masterson, a weather man who wants a job change!

[maiatcat]

http://originals.msn.com/republicrats/

[Hawk]

Better be careful. BNSF5767 has designated himself a mod and he'll start crying if anyone posts anything political. :rolleyes:

[maiatcat]

Better be careful. BNSF5767 has designated himself a mod and he'll start crying if anyone posts anything political. :rolleyes:

I never used the word...you did! In fact, I hit the alert button myself.

[rpicardi1]

The problem is not the subject matter, it is when the subject matter changes into the name calling mode such as what happened with the Second Amendment post.

Otherwise, there are a lot of post to be deleted.

[rdamurphy]

I don't know about this whole Republicrat (or is that "Republicratic?") thing. I think I'd rather be a Demopublican!

Robert

[plainsman]

I don't know if I support the Whigory or the Grangpolitian party?:confused:

[Hawk]

I never used the word...you did! In fact, I hit the alert button myself.
6061 Where in the world did you come up with the idea that I said you used the word political, or politics, or anything close? :confused:

[maiatcat]

6061 Where in the world did you come up with the idea that I said you used the word political, or politics, or anything close? :confused:

Oops.. perhaps i heard you wrong!!!!

[Hawk]

Yep! I think you did. I was actually making fun of BNSF5767.
I meant nothing at all towards you. :)

[jtr1962]

I'm a Republibertaricrat myself. :D Now try to pronounce that ten times. :p

[BNSF5767]

Better be careful. BNSF5767 has designated himself a mod and he'll start crying if anyone posts anything political. :rolleyes:

I made not be a mod but still we all need to try and ENFORCE THEM and maybe one day you will be a mod i want too!

[cp5513]

Pssst, it you wanna go old school you can use the Brit/Canuk nicknames; Tories and Grits/Whigs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tories
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Grits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whigs
...maybe we can sneak under the radar for a while :D

[Hawk]

I made not be a mod but still we all need to try and ENFORCE THEM and maybe one day you will be a mod i want too!
I have no interest in being a mod here. I'm already a mod/admin on 5 other forums. I don't need anymore.
The thing is, if you see something you don't like, you should report it to a mod. Vigilante justice doesn't work very well. Even one of the mods questioned your actions.

[rdamurphy]

I made not be a mod but still we all need to try and ENFORCE THEM and maybe one day you will be a mod i want too!

Well, since Maiacat missed the opportunity:

I may not be a mod, but still, we all need to try to ENFORCE THEM, and maybe, one day, you will be a mod. I want to!

It still doesn't make sense, but I can't fix that without changing the content and meaning of the sentence ot what I think you're trying to say...

In the future, please phrase your responses in the form of a sentence!

Robert

[maiatcat]

Well, since Maiacat missed the opportunity:

I may not be a mod, but still, we all need to try to ENFORCE THEM, and maybe, one day, you will be a mod. I want to!

It still doesn't make sense, but I can't fix that without changing the content and meaning of the sentence ot what I think you're trying to say...

In the future, please phrase your responses in the form of a sentence!

Robert

Lord Robert, I left the job to you!!!!!

[rdamurphy]

Yeah, I'm always have to clean up after the cat at home, too.

I hate litter boxes.

Robert

[rpicardi1]

Don't say anything that offends or criticizes the political agenda of a CAN'T or the post may get locked or vanish.

Robert, An achiever has invented and is selling self cleaning litter boxes. http://www.litter-robot.com/ There were over 1.5 million hits on the subject. Makes that messy disgusting job a lot easier. Makes the cats happy too when their litter box stays clean.

[rdamurphy]

Yeah, well, the cat'll be 9 years old on Halloween, I'm kind of hoping she doesn't last much longer. She fell out of a tree last Winter, couldn't walk for a month and a half, but she got better. Hopefully I'll have better aim next time. She goes outside now, so we don't have a litter box. My son likes to drag her around, he's only 3 but he's a pretty big boy, but she still has her claws, so he has a hard time getting a good grip on her neck before she gets away.

I hate cats. Well, except in a nice Chow Mein!

Robert

[cp5513]

...maybe one day you will be a mod

I wouldn't want the job on this forum

i want too!

and I shudder to think of that event unfolding

[bnsf1959]

There were something similar to that was advertised on TV about 5-10 years ago where you have a litter pan and it has some kind of machine that would comb thru the box and scoop up the litter into a bag at the end. All you had to do was to remove the bag and replace it with a new one. I don't care for cats, either. I prefer dogs any day.;)

[rdamurphy]

Definitely. Dogs are much tastier, and not near as lean!

Robert

[bnsf1959]

Definitely. Dogs are much tastier, and not near as lean!

Robert

I don't mean it as eating them like the people in the far east. I prefer to own a dog over a cat anytime. Let's get back to subject of this thread, shall we?

[rdamurphy]

Well, let's see, we were talking about combining Democrats and Republicans, right, well then this would seem to be on topic:

http://forums.flightsim.com/vbts/attachment.php?attachmentid=6064&stc=1&d=1219371357

The ultimate bi-partisan animal! I'm not real sure about that elephantdonkey thing...

Robert

[maiatcat]

Yeah, I'm always have to clean up after the cat at home, too.

I hate litter boxes.

Robert

Why do you think I left the job to you in the first place?

[maiatcat]

Definitely. Dogs are much tastier, and not near as lean!

Robert

PETA might not like such comments especially you admitted shooting one of my relatives in the tree last month! Now you and the moderator are making chow mein from my relatives. Please stick to the canines.. especially German shepherds. I could supply a list of names and I will even pay for the wok, Lord Robert!!!!

[rdamurphy]

Y'know, here in Denver, we host the National Western Stock Show. The only difference between the Stock Show and the Democratic National Convention is that at the DNC they don't kill and eat the winners.

Robert

[pstraten]

Priceless.

[pstraten]

Robert,

Just think back to the 1950's-or to the speculative future. Remember the Democratic Conservatives and the Radical Republicans in H. Beam Piper's "Crisis in 2140?"

[rdamurphy]

I think they call Democratic Conservatives "neo-cons" now, and they've either marginalized them or thrown them out (Joe Liberman?).

It's like our school district here, they sent out a flyer. They are getting the same amount of funding they did last year. That's described as an $8 million dollar "cut." Nope, it's not, it's just not the increase they want. Why do they "need" $8 million dollars? So they can give teachers - in a County with one of the highest foreclosure rates in the US, a raise, and put air conditioning in schools that aren't open in the Summer!

Robert

[Paul1953]

They're still around causing mischief ( Georgia ), and pounding the drums for war with Iran.

Leiberman might just end up a running mate of McCain.

[maiatcat]

Lord Robert, you have it backwards. most Neo-Cons started out as members of the DemocraTIC party under Scoop Jackson and moved on to support presidents of your stripe.

The Wikkipedia (sub verbum"Neo-conservatism) notes, "Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States from the rejection of the social liberalism, moral relativism, and New Left counterculture of the 1960s. It influenced the presidential administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, representing a realignment in American politics, and the transition of some liberals to the right of the political spectrum; hence the term, which refers to being 'new' conservatives.[1] Neoconservatism emphasizes foreign policy as the paramount responsibility of government, maintaining that America's role as the world's sole superpower is indispensable to establishing and maintaining global order.[2]


The term neoconservative was originally used as a criticism against liberals who had "moved to the right".[3][4] Michael Harrington, a democratic socialist, coined the usage of neoconservative in a 1973 Dissent magazine article concerning welfare policy.[5] According to E. J. Dionne, the nascent neoconservatives were driven by "the notion that liberalism" had failed and "no longer knew what it was talking about."[1]

The first major neoconservative to embrace the term was Irving Kristol, in his 1979 article "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed 'Neoconservative.'"[3] Kristol's ideas had been influential since the 1950s, when he co-founded and edited Encounter magazine.[6]. Another source was Norman Podhoretz, editor of Commentary magazine from 1960 to 1995. By 1982 Podhoretz was calling himself a neoconservative, in a New York Times Magazine article titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy".[7][8]

Prominent neoconservative periodicals are Commentary and The Weekly Standard. Neoconservatives are associated with foreign policy initiatives of think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), The Heritage Foundation, and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA).'


On Scoop Jackson, the same article notes," Many [Neo-cons]supported Democratic Senator Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson, derisively known as the Senator from Boeing, during his 1972 and 1976 campaigns for president. Among those who worked for Jackson were future neoconservatives Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Richard Perle and Felix Rohatyn. In the late 1970s neoconservative support moved to Ronald Reagan and the Republicans, who promised to confront Soviet expansionism."

[rdamurphy]

That's what I said: "I think they call Democratic Conservatives "neo-cons" now."

That makes three different replies now, where you've said exactly the same thing I said while saying I was wrong. Perhaps you could use this... (http://www.tomfolio.com/bookdetailsgg.asp?b=648&m=737)

I think it's near the spelling and grammar texts...

Robert

[maiatcat]

Correction, they started out as Democratic LIBERALS and become republican CONSERVATIVES. There is a difference. I am not saying the same thing. Get it right, Lord Robert. You have it backwards as I said. A liberal is not a conservative. The Neo-Cons are a specific group of conservative Republicans who were formerly liberal members of the Democratic Party. To put it another way, today's conservative Democrats are not Neo-Cons. Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, Richard Perle and Felix Rohatyn are Neo-Cons. Apparently, you are misunderstanding me; what I do not know for certain is whether your misunderstanding is apparent or intentional.

[rdamurphy]

Get the book, it will all make sense, then.

Robert

[maiatcat]

Your definition is incorrect. You should be the one reading the book. I know you know the difference between a liberal and a conservative. A Democratic Liberal is not the same as a Conservative republican.

[rdamurphy]

The funny thing is that you're trying to define a perjorative phrase used towards people that liberals don't like. (Wow, that's redundant!). The Heritage Institute is far from being "neoconservative" since it never came from the left fringes. I believe, Wikipedia notwithstanding, that the previous term for a "neocon" was a "Reagan Democrat." In other words, people in the Democrat Party, ie. Conservative Democrats, for whom the Democrat Party had moved so far left, that they were no longer welcome, or no longer wanted to participate in the Party.

So, let's explore some legitimate sources, since Wikipedia is being rejected as a source by the vast majority of schools in America, both Secondary and post-Seconday.

Let's look at http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_196286.html

Rich Lowry: Historically, 30 years ago it meant a former liberal who became a conservative. The cliche was because "they were mugged by reality," but it was because they saw the empirical failures of liberal welfare, state and foreign policies, and they were therefore less ideological than other conservatives and brought much more of a social science background to their argumentation.

A further definition: "Neoconservatives are less skeptical of government than other conservatives. They are less worried about reducing the size of government, less enthusiastic about tax cuts, more concerned about forging national crusades that can tap either the American public's patriotism or its desire for reform."

This obviously leaves out the right of center, highly suspicious of Government Heritage Foundation.

Here's another good description:

Paul Weyrich: They are mostly ex-liberals, by and large out of the intellectual community. These are people who came to the realization that modern liberalism was not the kind of liberalism that they had subscribed to.

The article also raises the argument that the term is anti-Semetic, and Bush is certainly described as a "neo-con" when quite clearly he is not.

Robert

[bnsf1959]

Liberals/Conservative discussions? Topic closed!