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pstraten
08-22-2008, 05:12 PM
Seems like a genuine whiff of fresh air around here in the couple of weeks I've been gone.

Everyone enjoying it? Comments?
maiatcat
08-22-2008, 05:51 PM
Seems like a genuine whiff of fresh air around here in the couple of weeks I've been gone.

Everyone enjoying it? Comments?
Every one seems civil. I learned that Lord Robert D has a sense of humor!!!!!!!!!!!! Well sort of.....
pstraten
08-22-2008, 06:32 PM
Maia,

"Every one seems civil."

That seems to be the crux of the matter, no?

When I first joined trainsim.com, it had only been in existence for a couple of months. There was only one forum, for MSTS, and all the comments were directed to that specific subject. In fact, it was no problem at all to go back and read every post from Post #1.

Then the various subforums proliferated--no problem--they were all about train simulation or trains. Among the last came the Yard. It was fun for a long time.

In the end, though, it stopped being fun. In the end, I thought Nels would simply have to rename the "Yard" to the "Political Ridicule Forum" or create a new forum of the same name.

The coinage became debased--a problem to anyone who knows history. The 80-20 rule went amok and became the 97-3 rule, when 3% of the people made 97% of the posts for the sake of ridiculing the "opposing" party.

For me, at least, it made the Yard a useless excursion and a waste of time. I applaud Hawk on starting his own forum for those who are interested in it. But here it degenerated into, not a discussion, but literally nothing more than a peacock display of bashing and ridicule.
jtr1962
08-22-2008, 07:19 PM
I'm happy to see a little less of the one-sided political bashing myself. Nothing wrong with heated discussion, but when every sentence which doesn't agree with the party line is ridiculed, then it ceases to be worthwhile. Hopefully we'll start seeing shades of grey here rather than just black and white (oops, that last comment wasn't politically correct!).
Paul1953
08-22-2008, 08:45 PM
or use "cut and dried";)
pstraten
08-22-2008, 11:26 PM
"cut and dried"

Now that is interesting as an idiom in itself, Paul. There are some who would say that it is an example (although I admit almost universal these days) of a comparison that has outlived the understanding of most people. Sort of like dog-eat-dog degenerating into the old college freshman mistake of referring to a "doggy-dog" world.

In reality it probably is a reference to the jackleg carpenter's method of cutting and trying a piece of wood to see that it fit--back when good wood was cheap--so the expression may well be "cut and tried."
maiatcat
08-22-2008, 11:38 PM
Paul, the problem is that some of the bashers are still at it!!! They think they have an exclsuive lock on the truth. Maia
rpicardi1
08-22-2008, 11:53 PM
The thread on the China cheating in the Olympics just passed through the event horizon a few minutes ago. There have been several others that have suffered a similar fate the past week.
shadowr434
08-22-2008, 11:58 PM
The thread on the China cheating in the Olympics just passed through the event horizon a few minutes ago. There have been several others that have suffered a similar fate the past week.

True,However I don't think you can blame this one on the cants as you so eloquently put it.
rpicardi1
08-23-2008, 12:12 AM
True,However I don't think you can blame this one on the cants as you so eloquently put it.

The blame falls directly on the name calling, not with the stubbornness of one's position on an issue or to protect a CAN'T from criticism of some agenda they are supporting.
shadowr434
08-23-2008, 12:18 AM
True,However I don't think you can blame this one on the cants as you so eloquently put it.

The blame falls directly on the name calling, not with the stubbornness of one's position on an issue or to protect a CAN'T from criticism of some agenda they are supporting.

Very true this time.
gt3corn
08-23-2008, 02:38 AM
sure is enjoying it!
rdamurphy
08-23-2008, 03:24 AM
Paul, the problem is that some of the bashers are still at it!!! They think they have an exclsuive lock on the truth. Maia

I'm sorry, your punctuation is a bit unclear. Where you attempting to agree with Paul, or holding yourself up as an example?

Robert
rdamurphy
08-23-2008, 04:00 AM
Since, quite clearly, I am not a titled British citizen, what other reason would you have to insert "Lord" before my name on every post? Indeed, it isn't enough for you to answer every one of my posts in the yard, but you've even ventured into other areas and bashed my posts, mis-stating my position in my EULA addendum post, and then making a snide remark about my reply correcting you.

And, it's rather odd that you would attempt to correct my typographical error of "where" instead of "were." At least both of those are words, what, pray tell does "exclsuive" mean? I'm not sure I can even pronounce it.

Please don't try to play the "innocent li'l ol' me" approach, it won't work. If anyone here is guilty of bashing, it's you. Pardon me for speaking truth to arrogance.

Have a nice day! :)

Robert
Paul1953
08-23-2008, 02:11 PM
hard to play nice, isnt it?
chucksc
08-23-2008, 03:35 PM
hard to play nice, isnt it?
And you pouring gasoline on the fire is not playing nice either Paul.
:)

Passive-Aggressive ill becomes you....
LOL!
Paul1953
08-23-2008, 03:37 PM
just making an observation!:)
chucksc
08-23-2008, 03:39 PM
Rofl
gt3corn
08-23-2008, 03:42 PM
And you pouring gasoline on the fire is not playing nice either Paul.
:)

Passive-Aggressive ill becomes you....
LOL!

You got to understand his point since everybody is on edge.
chucksc
08-23-2008, 03:48 PM
You got to understand his point since everybody is on edge.
Boo Hiss! Man is that Corny?

:)



P.S Pun intended!
Paul1953
08-23-2008, 03:53 PM
Me? on edge? I'm still sorting out this passive-agressive thing!:D
shadowr434
08-23-2008, 07:19 PM
sure is enjoying it!

gt3corn,are you in the US or in another country?No offense but your posts never really make much sense.
gt3corn
08-25-2008, 06:06 PM
gt3corn,are you in the US or in another country?No offense but your posts never really make much sense.

I don't understand how my posts don't make since, but I'm glad you read them, BTW I live in Kansas.
kevarc
08-25-2008, 06:20 PM
I don't understand how my posts don't make since, but I'm glad you read them, BTW I live in Kansas.

Because:

#1 - your punctuation stinks.
#2 - you sentence structure is even worse
#3 - you sound incoherent
#4 - Spelling - when I see you posts in Firefox, I get a ton of red lines
#5 - Word choice - Since? How about SENSE? Jeez, you could cut and paste to try and get it right.

And they say Louisiana and Mississippi kids are not too sharp. If this is what the heartland if offering, we are screwed.
jtr1962
08-25-2008, 06:46 PM
Am I the only one who sees the irony here? Specifically, a thread started to celebrate the newer, more civil Yard is going down in flames. :(
kevarc
08-25-2008, 06:51 PM
WHY DON'T YOU SHUT UP!!!:mad: MY SPELLING IS GOOD! ALL YOU DO IS START STUFF!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!

Still needs a lot of work on structure. And why scream?

your mad because your old! I'm not about to get banned because you got a big mouth!!

I'm not mad because I am old, I really don't care. Why would I be mad? I have been enjoying the sun and fun in Hawaii for almost 20 months on someone else's dime. And getting paid.

You really need to understand one thing - I really do not care if I hurt your self-esteem. The sooner you wake up and realize that the best you are going to do, writing the way you do, is operate a shovel, the better you will do. And don't tell me how good your grades are, anyone can get good grades, it is how you apply them and you have failed at that.
kevarc
08-25-2008, 06:52 PM
Kevin here doesn't understand it!!! HE THINKS HE CAN SAY WHAT EVER HE WANTS WITH OUT BEING BANNED!:mad: BUT IF I SAID THAT ABOUT HIM I WOULD BE GONE:mad::mad::mad:.

But I have been banned, more than once. Get your facts right.
gt3corn
08-25-2008, 06:55 PM
Just keep cutting me down!:mad:
kevarc
08-25-2008, 06:56 PM
Just keep cutting me down!:mad:

YOU asked.
gt3corn
08-25-2008, 06:57 PM
And why does he not get banned?
jtr1962
08-25-2008, 06:59 PM
I do not handle stupid well.
I don't either, but every time I'm about to get all bent out of shape on account of someone elses stupidity, I just remember what my grandfather used to say: "God must have loved the stupid man because he made so many of them."
gt3corn
08-25-2008, 07:01 PM
I don't either, but every time I'm about to get all bent out of shape on account of someone elses stupidity, I just remember what my grandfather used to say: "God must have loved the stupid man because he made so many of them."

Are you trying to say I'm stupid?
gt3corn
08-25-2008, 07:02 PM
Where is ken when you need him.
rgarber
08-25-2008, 07:05 PM
Join the military and get a backbone. :rolleyes:
jtr1962
08-25-2008, 07:07 PM
Are you trying to say I'm stupid?
No I'm not. I'll agree with Kevin that your grammar could use improvement, and your sentences are sometimes incoherent. That doesn't necessarily make one stupid, only uneducated. However, it makes you sound stupid even if you aren't. Seriously, if you're still in school see if you can get some help with your writing. I'm saying this in a kind way. How you present yourself is very important to how far you'll get in life.
kevarc
08-25-2008, 07:16 PM
I don't either, but every time I'm about to get all bent out of shape on account of someone elses stupidity, I just remember what my grandfather used to say: "God must have loved the stupid man because he made so many of them."

I'll have to remember that.
kevarc
08-25-2008, 07:21 PM
Where is ken when you need him.

Chasing after Barbie?
bktrains
08-25-2008, 08:02 PM
chasing after barbie?

rofl...
rdamurphy
08-25-2008, 08:25 PM
I think Kevin has a point. Communication should be clear, concise, and accurate. That's how misunderstandings are avoided. If Kevin contracted with me to build the Taj Mahal, and sent me the plans for the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and I built it according to the plans, both of us wasted our time.

I love helping people out on the forums, and quite often, have people send things to me to fix. I've seen a lot of other people do it, also, but sometimes, it's like pulling teeth or playing twenty questions just to get an idea of what's wrong. People post a dark screenshot and ask how to "fix this" without a hint what we're looking at. Other people ask questions that make no sense. Check out Kurt's thread on the Vomit Comets, he asks very good questions, with a lot of detail, and the answers reflect that.

If you constantly write things like "that dont make no since," people like me have to pause and try to figure out what the forum you're talking about. I, like Kevin, tend not to waste my time.

Whether you see it or not, whether it's clear or not, Kevin is actually trying to help you, and if you'd get over yourself, and do something simple like downloading IE Spellcheck, you could learn an awful lot and help yourself. Trust me, no company is going to hire you when you misspell your name on the employment application.

Well, except for somebody who needs someone who may not necessarily know how to spell "shovel" but knows how to use one.

BTW, Barbie ran off with GI Joe when he got back from 'Nam. Ken's living in San Fransisco now, and fronts a tribute group to the Village People.

Robert
chucksc
08-25-2008, 09:06 PM
WHY DON'T YOU SHUT UP!!!:mad: MY SPELLING IS GOOD! ALL YOU DO IS START STUFF!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!
Kenny is this you with your mail-order outcome based education derived MBA showing off again?

P.S. Love your nomme de garre this time
rdamurphy
08-25-2008, 09:46 PM
Kenny is this you with your mail-order outcome based education derived MBA showing off again?

P.S. Love your nomme de garre this time

The ironic part is that he actually spelled everything correctly in that particular post!

Robert
chucksc
08-25-2008, 10:37 PM
The ironic part is that he actually spelled everything correctly in that particular post!

Robert
I know! That's why I picked on that one Robert!

I wanted to see if he caught that too...
Baldwinbob
08-25-2008, 11:06 PM
Robert,

Shouldn't you be over at the convention, eating hot dogs or something? :)


Bob
rdamurphy
08-25-2008, 11:14 PM
They had my picture posted at the guard station at all the entrances...

I just wanted to see the 8444!

Robert
westerngy
08-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Okay folks lets leave the name calling out of it.As to gt3corn if you don't handle things well then why keep chiming in on it.Its called digging your own hole and the Hounds of Hell will Pounce

Keep it civil or its locked.
kevarc
08-26-2008, 01:31 AM
Okay folks lets leave the name calling out of it.As to gt3corn if you don't handle things well then why keep chiming in on it.Its called digging your own hole and the Hounds of Hell will Pounce

Keep it civil or its locked.

I'm hurt - NOT. :)

<howling at the moon> (even though it is not up yet here)
rdamurphy
08-26-2008, 01:38 AM
Moonrise: 1:19am, Mountain Daylight Savings Time.

Robert
kevarc
08-26-2008, 01:41 AM
Aug 26, 2008 1:57 AM 3:58 PM

Hawaii Standard time
rdamurphy
08-26-2008, 01:45 AM
Wow, I'll bet the moon is absolutely gorgeous rising over the Pacific Ocean... I've been to Hawaii once, Pearl Harbour, only stayed a few hours, on the way to Korea. Wish I could go back and visit for a while. I look terrible in a grass skirt, though.

Speaking of moons...

Did you know Uranus has 27 moons?

Robert
bnsf1959
08-26-2008, 04:57 AM
Where is ken when you need him.

What do you want me to do, hold your hand? I'm at work. I have a job outside of MSTS, you know..........
My advice to you Mr gt3corn is not to participate in this discussion and ignore us. Best thing to do is walk away from this. I don't wanna have to lock this thread but if it comes to it, I will.
rdamurphy
08-26-2008, 07:13 AM
Aw heck, go ahead and lock it, it's been pretty pointless, for the last two pages anyway. :p

Actually, it was pretty pointless to begin with, the first post was bashing people who like to talk about politics, the second post was just a bash period, and it hasn't improved much since then...

Robert
bnsf1959
08-26-2008, 08:09 AM
Where is ken when you need him.

I was with Barbie at work....LOL!

Chasing after Barbie?

LOL! I like your humor, Kevarc.

Aw heck, go ahead and lock it, it's been pretty pointless, for the last two pages anyway. :p

Actually, it was pretty pointless to begin with, the first post was bashing people who like to talk about politics, the second post was just a bash period, and it hasn't improved much since then...

Robert

If that's what you want. I guess I'll lock it then. Topic closed.