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Andy J
09-07-2008, 05:25 PM
To be blunt, any law, rushed thru, in the "heat of the moment" scares the crap out of me, I long ago, in this forum, warned about the potential abuse of the "Patriot Act" and laws like it...

That is what is happening over in England, where the government is using the "terror laws", Laws intended to help the Police investigate terrorists, is being used to;


Councils are using the Act to tackle dog fouling, the unauthorised sale of pizzas and the abuse of the blue badge scheme for disabled drivers.


And;


Derby council made sound recordings of a property after a complaint about noisy children



And;

Local authorities including Bassetlaw, Easington, Bolsover and Darlington have placed houses under video or photographic surveillance to tackle problems such as anti-social behaviour, unauthorised entry into gardens and benefit fraud. Others admitted using council staff to follow residents to determine whether they were working while claiming benefits.

Also, the act, allows the use of Children, by the Police, case in point....



Councils have used the RIPA to recruit children for surveillance operations. Dudley and County Durham exploited the Act to send children into shops with secret video and audio equipment to see whether they could buy cigarettes and alcohol. Officials in Durham have mounted 60 RIPA investigations against these kinds of businesses in the past 12 months.


For the record, and to make my position on this issue Crystal clear. THIS, is why, I have stated on many posts, to be why I have issues with the "Patriot Act" and laws like it :eek:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2696031/Anti-terrorism-laws-used-to-spy-on-noisy-children.html

pstraten
09-07-2008, 05:38 PM
Yes, the Patriot Act was a rush job and ill considered as a result. As a consequence, our Constitutional rights are endangered.

Perhaps Thomas Jefferson was right when he said that from time to time the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots. And tyrants.

AlanCh
09-07-2008, 06:21 PM
Meanwhile, under the rushed extradition agreement that the UK signed with the USA, an English guy who admits hacking into US military computers from a computer in England looking for information on 'extra-terrestrial anti-gravity machines' is likely to be extradited to the US to be tried under US anti-terrorism laws, and faces life in gaol!

Of course, the UK government botched the negotiations, so no US citizen could be extradited to the UK for a similar offence.