simtech95209 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) Value was either too large or too small for an Int 16. FSX pauses, after several "Continues" will return to normal. Basics: FSX-A on Win7 32bit. I replaced HDD about two years ago and 95% time FSX works fine. But particularily after the XF-103 , Milton's X-3 and the latest UFO update when performance goes off the charts, the FSX pauses with this error. I thought I had the necessary Framework versions.. now I'm not sure what I'm missing. I've been unable to find anything relating to FSX and Framework errors on google although there are some Framework errors dealing with scenery modules for FSX. I basically have a virgin scenery install. The problem manifests itself when I put the advanced designed aircraft into exceptional flight profiles like high ROC, exceptional acceleration, etc. Does anyone have any insight into how this can be corrected. It's very distracting to be rocketing skyward and then FSX pauses and I have to deal with this. I'll try to post the full error. Thank you in advance of any ideas.. I know there's a wealth of info in FSX land. Terry Edited June 5, 2020 by simtech95209 additional info I9-10850K, Mugen 5 cooler, Gigagbyte Aorus Z490 Master, 2TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2, 1TB Samsung 970 Plus, 2TB Samsung 870evo, Corsair RM-850, G-Skill DDR-4 3600, Lian Li LanCool Mesh, Nvidia 3070Ti, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, MFG Crosswind pedals, Win10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomak249 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Try google theres plenty about this on there - found 6 links myself. Also have you searched on here? i5 4690 (350mhz) with Arctic Cooler, 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz, ASUS Rock H97 performance MoBo, MSI Ventus XS OC 1660GTX 6GB, Windows10 64bit, 256GB and 500GB Crucial SSDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtech95209 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Yes, I looked at those and they dealt with SQL listings and not FSX. There are a lot here @ flightsim, but they seem to deal with scenery and some addons, not just plain exceptional performance issues. I'm not running any addons except LRM (landing rate monitor) . I9-10850K, Mugen 5 cooler, Gigagbyte Aorus Z490 Master, 2TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2, 1TB Samsung 970 Plus, 2TB Samsung 870evo, Corsair RM-850, G-Skill DDR-4 3600, Lian Li LanCool Mesh, Nvidia 3070Ti, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, MFG Crosswind pedals, Win10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Well, what does it say under details? That will help. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallcott Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Well, what does it say under details? That will help. Run SFC /Scannow. Should fix any latent errors. Read up if this is unfamiliar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomak249 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) What version of UIAutomation.dll are you using? You looked here? https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/microsoft-flight-simulator-x-crash-to-desktop-with/a85dda2f-8de3-4d86-ac21-327c985a6881 Edited June 5, 2020 by pomak249 i5 4690 (350mhz) with Arctic Cooler, 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz, ASUS Rock H97 performance MoBo, MSI Ventus XS OC 1660GTX 6GB, Windows10 64bit, 256GB and 500GB Crucial SSDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napamule2 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I would like to know how much ram you have, is your PC a laptop, is your HDrive 5400 or 7200 rpm, and WHAT do you do to change views (Locked Spot to 2D panel) - menu or keypresses? Chuck B Napamule i7 2600K @ 3.4 Ghz (Turbo-Boost to 3.877 Ghz), Asus P8H67 Pro, Super Talent 8 Gb DDR3/1333 Dual Channel, XFX Radeon R7-360B 2Gb DDR5, Corsair 650 W PSU, Dell 23 in (2048x1152), Windows7 Pro 64 bit, MS Sidewinder Precision 2 Joy, Logitech K-360 wireless KB & Mouse, Targus PAUK10U USB Keypad for Throttle (F1 to F4)/Spoiler/Tailhook/Wing Fold/Pitch Trim/Parking Brake/Snap to 2D Panel/View Change. Installed on 250 Gb (D:). FS9 and FSX Acceleration (locked at 30 FPS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I've been unable to find anything relating to FSX and Framework errors on google although there are some Framework errors dealing with scenery modules for FSX. Stock FSX doesn't use .NET Framework. Must be an addon. Wim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtech95209 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) Ok, gentlemen.. the plot thickens. First and foremost, thank you to all who responded and I'll address each comment. In my research I found I had .Net Framework 4.8 installed. The original FSX-A used 2.0 in the XP and Vista era and when Win7 rolled out, the .Net package was updated to 3.0 with the supposedly included 2.0 version that was a patched version. I tried installing the original 3.5 and I could download, but it would not install.... sat there did nothing...Further reading revealed that Win7 already had that version incorporated. Hence dead in water. In preparation for the .Net 3.5 install, I performed a clean boot and when the package did not install, I abandoned that task and started FSX. Lo and Behold, the XF-103 went all the way to 83K feet in a flash and 3.1 Mach.:confused: It went so fast as to have had a compressor stall and the engine rolled back to off. That's where I am now. CRJ: The details relate as best I remember to the JIT debugging issue, but I don't remember the application. Hence I tried to get the error to pop up and fail... still trying...Good post, I'll definitely get that info when it fails again. Mallcott: Yes, I'm very familiar with SFC/ scannow....thank you..I hadn't thought to run that but did so following your suggestion, however no errors were uncovered. Pomack 249: the UIAutomation.dll version is 6.0.6001.18000. Thank you specifically for that link that was like jumping into the rabbit hole of FSX and Framework issues. Chuck: I use almost exclusively key presses to change views. My poor ten year old laptop has two sticks of 4GB. However the OS only sees 2.96 for applications after the OS overhead. The drive I'm using is Samsung 750 evo. I know I'm due for a new one and hopefully that will happen shortly.This old Dell has been a real work horse. f16jockey_2: According to this https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/microsoft-flight-simulator-x-crash-to-desktop-with/a85dda2f-8de3-4d86-ac21-327c985a6881 the original FSX required .Net 2.0 to be run in XP. To summarize where I am: It works at the moment, but I tend to agree with CRJ_Simpilot and F16jockey2 I believe another program is causing it to crash. I frequently leave the sim and laptop running for days allowing it to go to "Sleep" and then returning to FSX to continue/ There's no telling what open apps are still playing havoc in the background. I'll keep looking and if I have more info, I'll update this thread.... Many, many thanks to all who offered their suggestions. In the interest of someone else facing the same issue later, If I find the culprit, I'll post it here.........Best to all and be safe.....Terry Edited June 5, 2020 by simtech95209 additional info I9-10850K, Mugen 5 cooler, Gigagbyte Aorus Z490 Master, 2TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2, 1TB Samsung 970 Plus, 2TB Samsung 870evo, Corsair RM-850, G-Skill DDR-4 3600, Lian Li LanCool Mesh, Nvidia 3070Ti, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, MFG Crosswind pedals, Win10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f16jockey_2 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) f16jockey_2: According to this https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/microsoft-flight-simulator-x-crash-to-desktop-with/a85dda2f-8de3-4d86-ac21-327c985a6881 the original FSX required .Net 2.0 to be run in XP. At the end of the thread, it’s revealed that the initial error was caused by REX Weather Engine, so I seriously question the speculations and semi-thruths stated at the beginning of that thread. Wim Edited June 6, 2020 by f16jockey_2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRJ_simpilot Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 To summarize where I am: It works at the moment, but I tend to agree with CRJ_Simpilot and F16jockey2 I believe another program is causing it to crash. I never stated that. I just wanted to know what the details said. It could be a critical component to .net I frequently leave the sim and laptop running for days allowing it to go to "Sleep" and then returning to FSX to continue. This could be a source of issues. You never want to use those low power modes especially while the Sim was running. Very bad idea. I've been helping people with computer issues since circa 2006 on tech forums all across the Internet and I've seen my fair share of help threads where it was due to a low power mode like hibernation or sleep. It may or may not be a problem for some, but to others it can be. OOM errors? Read this. What the squawk? An awesome weather website with oodles of Info. and options. Wile E. Coyote would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simtech95209 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 Gentlemen, you spoke very wise words . Yes, the application at the end of the details in that link did involve a REX weather module. This is why I stated I suspected something other than FSX. Today I began another session fresh and zoomed up to 185K in the upgraded UFO and the XF-103 with full ramjet and turbojet without interruption, no issues. Perhaps I'll purposely leave it on overnight in order to try to duplicate the problem tomorrow. Again, thank you for your suggestions and intuitions..tp I9-10850K, Mugen 5 cooler, Gigagbyte Aorus Z490 Master, 2TB Samsung 980 Pro M.2, 1TB Samsung 970 Plus, 2TB Samsung 870evo, Corsair RM-850, G-Skill DDR-4 3600, Lian Li LanCool Mesh, Nvidia 3070Ti, Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo, MFG Crosswind pedals, Win10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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