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  1. This was my reply to a thread about "class action lawsuit" for "poor project management" re MSFS 2020 (on flightsimulator.com), it represents my feeling generally about this "product" : Agree with many of these individual complaints, as I was hit hard on 1.14.6.0, but in my opinion, this is a misjudgment. This is by no means an engineering-manufacturing project, it is a fluid creative-technical organism . I purchased the Premium Deluxe edition and a new gaming desktop setup in Aug 2020, with great anticipation. I’ve owned and enjoyed 5-6 different flight simulators since the mid-90’s. I find the learning process of MSFS 2020 stimulating. I did not expect “perfection” (whatever that is) at the onset. It is so immense and complex and evolving, that there will always be glitches. The great thing is that there is such a creative force behind this project, with ongoing interaction between the design leaders and the community (Developer Q & A video conferences), that there is continuous improvement and growth. I was disappointed in the degradation in performance in my system with 1.14.6.0, but I was able to solve some of these problems. At this point my continued satisfaction in engaging in this endeavor is well worth it. Thanks.:cool:
  2. This is an excellent teaching video about scenery data usage :
  3. Was it 750 Mb, and I misread it? It has refreshed now (not sure why since I set this to 31st day). Now using Win 10 network settings to monitor cumulative data usage and its much lower, and Xfinity bill has bar graph of monthly data use, and its also much lower.
  4. My internet data plan (Comcast) ... speed is "600 Mbps", measured usually 400-500 Mbps by ethernet cable, and recently found out that there is a cap of 1.2 Tb per month, with overage charges of $10 for each additional 50 Mb. There seems to be a true unlimited plan for an additional $30 per month. The data tracker on my Data settings page showed about 750 Gb 2 days ago (the 17th - I have it reset on the 31st day). I use MSFS 2020 about 2-3 hrs 3-4 times per week on average going to many different scenery areas. I do leave it on sometimes for 1-2 hours paused on the Options screen. Is there anything I should do different about the way I am using the simulator to alter or decrease data usage, or just buy the unlimited plan and not worry about it? (It seems like a fairly small amount of use for this much data.)
  5. I've been pretty happy with this: Power Spec 434 ($1600 plus extended warranty): Intel I7-9700K, Zotac NVidia RTX 2070 Super Mini, G Skill Ripjaw 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM; 1TB NVMe SSD (added a second 1 TB SSD), CPU cooler/lights, 27 inch curved AOC C27G1 monitor, Comcast "600 Mbps" internet, Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS 1 I still have a 2011 Alienware M17X-R3 (has my FSX on it) with some upgrades, that I use for everything else ...
  6. take a look at this, from (Microsoft's) Flight Simulator forum: The important thing to understand is any modern game will be either CPU or GPU limited with a given set of settings. Usually modern games are GPU limited, (because modern games emphasize awesome graphics and screens have got bigger). Most games are so limited by the graphics processing that it’s not possible to max out the cpu, but FS2020 is different because there’s plenty of work the cpu can do if the settings ask for that. The OP has a 5-year-old top-end graphics card (which now counts as weak) and a weaker cpu, so here’s what he should do (other than upgrade), actually it makes sense for everyone: Run the in-game developer FPS tool (I posted on this here separately) The tool will tell the frame rate, whether the sim is cpu or gpu bottlenecked, and how many milliseconds per frame the ‘main’ cpu thread and the gpu are taking. E.g. if the main thread is taking 40ms per frame then your MAXIMUM fps can only be 1000/40 i.e. 25 fps. You’ll see the “limited by gpu/cpu” message is whichever of gpu or ‘main thread’ is taking the longest. If you are CPU limited, then reducing the settings that load the CPU will improve your frame rate. These include AI aircraft, scenery LOD, and object LOD settings. So reduce these (err on the side of a big reduction first) and watch the fps and ‘main thread’ milliseconds. When these come down to the same as your gpu, your fps will be maxed. If you are GPU limited, then reduce just about any other setting. I’d start with the graphics scaling parameter - this reduces screen resolution but does it better than simply choosing to run full-screen at a non-native resolution. Similarly monitor the “gpu milliseconds” until they match the cpu. The settings for trees and bushes are heavy on the gpu also. Also reflections IIRC. I’m not suggesting you just dial everything down to “■■■■”, just do the adjustments in 3 & 4 until you max your FPS at a reasonable rate (and your FPS tool will be flickering between gpu/cpu limited) and then you can carefully tweak individual settings until you get the trees (or whatever) the way you like them but understand the trade-off you’ll have to make with the clouds (or whatever). By the way, do this with ‘custom weather few clouds’ on the runway at LOWI, so you get a repeatable test setup. That airport is pretty busy so you’ll also see the framerate hit each time a player passes in their 747. FYI my 32GB, 9700K, 2080Ti, 4K, Ultra setup really was around 28-33fps there, and I used the method above to tweak it up to a smooth 55fps (including a serious graphics scaling of maybe 70%, I forget). The surprising thing was at 1080p/Ultra the fps was still only 42 fps because the 9700K was maxed out (and the gpu was under 50% used), hence adjustments needed for both cpu and gpu even though my rig is above the MS spec. I think MS are making the auto default settings too high and this is disappointing people.
  7. I'm now using the Developer's Tool - FPS chart, and trying to find correlations between various setting main thread and GPU milliseconds/frame, it is presently about 15 ms main thread and 21 ms GPU, GPU limiting ... I also was recently dealing with a CTD issue, which I think I solved ...
  8. my setup is below ... interesting, flying Seattle, Mt Ranier, then Vancouver, my same settings ... Vancouver takes a few seconds to fill in initially ... flying over Vancouver downtown 24-28 fps, then fly over forested area near downtown and drops to 15-18 fps (start to get mildly detectable stuttering) ... I then started adjusting terrain level of detail, render scaling, anisotropic filtering, texture supersampling ... don't necessarily get an improvement ... continue experimenting/learning ...
  9. With this setup : Power Spec 434 ($1600 plus extended warranty): Intel I7-9700K, Zotac NVidia RTX 2070 Super Mini, G Skill Ripjaw 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM; 1TB NVMe SSD (added a second 1 TB SSD), CPU cooler/lights, 27 inch curved AOC C27G1 monitor, and all settings on ultra, should I only be getting 19-23 fps when flying around complex cities, like NYC, DC, Paris ... ? are there some video settings that I can decrease, with little decline in detail that will give me fps gain ?
  10. I have been doing flight sims for 25+ years and I agree, maybe too much reflexive criticism. How about gratitude and appreciation, and looking forward to what is to come (some Buddhist-type thinking). I have excitement about it. I did have to upgrade my joystick as my Microsoft Sidewinder was a mess (to a Thrustmast T Flight HOTAS 1 which works great). I like the idea that I learn new things and am working on "optimizing" it continuously). Micro Center Power Spec 434 ($1600 plus extended warranty): Intel I7-9700K, Zotac NVidia RTX 2070 Super Mini, G Skill Ripjaw 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM; 1TB NVMe SSD (added a second 1 TB SSD), CPU cooler/lights, 27 inch curved AOC C27G1 monitor. Also have 2011 Alienware M17X-R3 laptop with FSX with lots of 3rd party scenery installed.
  11. My experience ... Bought Micro Center Power Spec 434 ($1600 plus extended warranty): Intel I7-9700K, Zotac NVidia RTX 2070 Super Mini, G Skill Ripjaw 32GB DDR4-3600 RAM; 1TB NVMe SSD (added a second 1 TB SSD), CPU cooler/lights, 27 inch curved AOC C27G1 monitor (have 2011 Alienware M17X-R3 laptop with FSX and lots of 3rd party scenery installed). My monitor is an AOC c27g1 27" full hd 144hz vga hdmi dp freesync curved led gaming monitor. Just started readiing about 1440p and 4K monitors. Variably getting 35-45 fps, but low-mid 20's over complex scenery, eg the DRZEWIECKI Design - Washington Landmarks for MSFS, all graphics settings max'd. Joystick is Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS 1 ($80).
  12. Hi. Can people tell me what their range or average FPS's are with this setup: Intel I79700K, Zotac NVidia RTX 2070 Super Mini, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, (added a second 1 TB SSD), Internet "speed", 400-500 Mbps, say, with all settings on Ultra, It seemed I was getting 35-45, now, just installed World Scenery update, getting 23-28, over Wash DC ... ?
  13. I had very bad luck with an old Microsoft Sidewinder, and am doing great with a Thrustmaster T Flight Hotas 1 ($80), as far as automatic button assignments, gain (sensitivity) adjustments, with the exception that it seems to decouple at times and I have to disconnect the USB or reboot ... Bought Micro Center Power Spec 434: I79700K, Zotac NVidia RTX 2070 Super Mini, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, (added a second 1 TB SSD), CPU cooler/lights, 27 inch curved AOC C27G1 monitor (have 2011 Alienware M17X-R3 laptop with FSX and lots of 3rd party scenery installed).
  14. I have been doing flight sims for 20 years and I agree, too much reflexive criticism. How about some gratitude, appreciation, enjoyment, and looking forward to what is to come (Buddhist-type thinking ...). I have excitement about it. I did have to upgrade my joystick as my Microsoft Sidewinder was a mess (to a Thrustmast T Flight HOTAS 1 which works great). I like the idea that I learn new things and am working on "optimizing" it continuously).
  15. Try something like a Thrustmaster (T Flight HOTAS 1), for example. It will automatically assign controls and is very user friendly. (my old Microsoft Sidewinder would not work at all and only crash the plane). I have a I7 9700K, Zotac NVidia 2070 Super Mini, 32 GB memory, (2) 1 TB SSDs (MicroCenter PowerSpec G434).
  16. Lowest frame rates, on Ultra, with all traffic sliders maxed, 18-23 fps ...
  17. I get NO stuttering whatsoever, on a I7 9700K, NVidia 2070 Super Mini, GSkill 32 GB, 1 TB SSD, Thrustmaster T Flight HOTAS One (just bought). FPS on High upper 30's and on Ultra upper 40's roughly. That is, upper 40's on High, and upper 30's on Ultra.
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